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Re: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)

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2000-12-13 01:53{{{5x}}} [idm] rdj and v/vm
└─ 2000-12-14 22:25adam florin [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)
2000-12-14 22:38Arnold Layne Re: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)
2000-12-14 22:40Arnold Layne Re: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)
2000-12-15 04:08pat kelty Re: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)
2000-12-15 04:17{{{5x}}} Re: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm)
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2000-12-13 01:53{{{5x}}}one thing that has me confused is how everyone has been raving about rdj's "butchering" of
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one thing that has me confused is how everyone has been raving about rdj's "butchering" of old songs in his sets. this seems relatively odd considering that v/vm hardly gets noticed and gets 5-6 people at their shows (or sorry, that's how many people are left at the end). does anyone else find this disheartening? i don't want to turn this into a big angry thread but i was just wondering if anyone else has picked up on this. btw, v/vm rules. shaun np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than what lots of guys today can put out) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-14 22:25adam florin>np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than >what lots of guys
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quoted 2 lines np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than>np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than >what lots of guys today can put out)
would you really compare 'fontana mix' with idm ? it's probably closer to spooky's chaotic culture-collages or the undying electroacoustic scene, if we're thinking of 'what guys today can put out'. and i don't know how 'advanced' it is, aside from that it did advance a good deal away from what people expected of music ; cage might say that it was about as unadvanced as possible, leaning towards bizarre and accidental. i'm a big fan of his thinking, but in terms of music history, i think of him more as a necessary deviant rather than a shining example of what music should be. i'm just checking your namedropping, maybe you already agree with me. .af. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-14 22:38Arnold LayneI think that you are all pretentious bastards trying to drop names and see who's got the b
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I think that you are all pretentious bastards trying to drop names and see who's got the biggest prick (so to speak) ;) This list really cracks me up some time. Can't you just liten to something without analyzing it to death? Or at least keep your analysis to yourself, unless you happen to be writing a thesis for a music class. And even then, we don't want to hear about it ;) It's kinda like taking a dump and then taking a picture and posting it to the list. I think Jerking off (100's of years old and still more advanced than what lots of guys today can put out) Jerking off is a lot like IDM. peace, --AL
quoted 28 lines From: adam florin <aeflo@brown.edu>>From: adam florin <aeflo@brown.edu> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm) >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:25:13 -0500 > > >>np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than >>what lots of guys today can put out) > >would you really compare 'fontana mix' with idm ? it's probably >closer to spooky's chaotic culture-collages or the undying >electroacoustic scene, if we're thinking of 'what guys today can put >out'. and i don't know how 'advanced' it is, aside from that it did >advance a good deal away from what people expected of music ; cage >might say that it was about as unadvanced as possible, leaning >towards bizarre and accidental. i'm a big fan of his thinking, but >in terms of music history, i think of him more as a necessary deviant >rather than a shining example of what music should be. > >i'm just checking your namedropping, maybe you already agree with me. > > >.af. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-14 22:40Arnold LayneI think that you are all pretentious bastards trying to drop names and see who's got the b
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I think that you are all pretentious bastards trying to drop names and see who's got the biggest prick (so to speak) ;) This list really cracks me up some times. Can't you just liten to something without analyzing it to death? Or at least keep your analysis to yourself, unless you happen to be writing a thesis for a music class. And even then, we don't want to hear about it ;) It's kinda like taking a dump and then taking a picture and posting it to the list. I think Jerking off (100's of years old and still more advanced than what lots of guys today can put out) Jerking off is a lot like IDM. peace, --AL
quoted 28 lines From: adam florin <aeflo@brown.edu>>From: adam florin <aeflo@brown.edu> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] cage v. idm? (was Re: [idm] rdj and v/vm) >Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 17:25:13 -0500 > > >>np: john cage - fontana mix (40 years old and still more advanced than >>what lots of guys today can put out) > >would you really compare 'fontana mix' with idm ? it's probably >closer to spooky's chaotic culture-collages or the undying >electroacoustic scene, if we're thinking of 'what guys today can put >out'. and i don't know how 'advanced' it is, aside from that it did >advance a good deal away from what people expected of music ; cage >might say that it was about as unadvanced as possible, leaning >towards bizarre and accidental. i'm a big fan of his thinking, but >in terms of music history, i think of him more as a necessary deviant >rather than a shining example of what music should be. > >i'm just checking your namedropping, maybe you already agree with me. > > >.af. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-15 04:08pat kelty--- "Arnold Layne" <l__________@hotmail.com> > wrote: >I think that you are all pretentiou
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quoted 16 lines wrote:> wrote: >I think that you are all pretentious bastards trying to drop names and see >who's got the biggest prick (so to speak) ;) > > >This list really cracks me up some times. Can't you just liten to something >without analyzing it to death? Or at least keep your analysis to yourself, >unless you happen to be writing a thesis for a music class. And even then, >we don't want to hear about it ;) It's kinda like taking a dump and then >taking a picture and posting it to the list. > >I think Jerking off (100's of years old and still more advanced than what >lots of guys today can put out) Jerking off is a lot like IDM. > >peace, >--AL
word to that!!! i agree but if it was not for all the pretentious bastards trying to drop names and sound cool this list would have next to no posts on it. its kinda sad that when people are not flaming i get like 20-30 posts a day but when the tempers flare i get like 70-100 posts a day though im still on the list and reading what the pretentious bastards post so i guess im the real dummy :-\ _____________________________________________________________ Portent Mail - http://www.portentmail.com A service of Portent - http://www.portent.net The Ultimate Games Workshop Web Source --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-15 04:17{{{5x}}}> i agree but if it was not for all the pretentious bastards trying to drop names and soun
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quoted 1 line i agree but if it was not for all the pretentious bastards trying to> i agree but if it was not for all the pretentious bastards trying to
drop names and sound cool this list would have next to no posts on it. though im still on the list >and reading what the pretentious bastards post so i guess im the real dummy :-\ ...and dummy you are... excuse me? please tell me this post was of light humour. nonetheless, how is bringing up an artist like cage rendered pretentious? spare me your idiosyncratic bullshit. have you ever listened to anything he has ever composed? have you listened to the mix which i spoke of? goddammit...you would be just as pretentious listening to l'usine or oval or whatever the hell type of music makes no sense outside of the world of this list =). (i'm not attacking either artist...i'm just trying to make a point) oh wait, i'm just trying to "sound cool, man" yeah....cowabunga rad bodacious .shaun. (are the periods put before and after "s" and "n" pretentious as well?) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org