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Even better are the Prefuse 73 tracks on the "Rapid Transit" compilation on Chocolate Industries. ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Bill Wright wrote:

quoted 9 lines Just had to point out that this EP is extraordinarily good. Can't wait for

> Just had to point out that this EP is extraordinarily good. Can't wait for > the LP. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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on 1/21/01 9:52 AM, Jon at k-rad@swbell.net wrote:

quoted 4 lines successfull blend of idm and hip-hop, whereas funkstorung and company

> > successfull blend of idm and hip-hop, whereas funkstorung and company > > still have a definite white-boy sound about them, prefuse could be > > bumped in a gold rim hoo-ride =) and not feel particularly out of place. > > It's got a radical ghetto vibe about it.

this has to be the funniest thing i've read in a while, for so many reasons. not funny- ha ha, but funny like a clown at a funeral. i think the first push button objects 12" on schematic was blacker than richard pryor in a coal mine. what a radical ghetto vibe! since when does music have a color? also, i'd like to see mr. len or big juss' response to being told they have a white boy sound. btw cannibal ox rocks my fucking world especially vast aire. but be forewarned, they're BLACK and from the GHETTO!!?! so don't take this album home to mommy! anyway, rumor has it that prefuse/scott herren's not only producing a full length for dose one but also for the legendary mf doom pka zev love x. the three people on here who actually know who that is should be creaming their panties right now. the more you know the more you know that you don't know shit www.gljtch.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

there is a track on the choco comp credited to "Communications Project" that sounds suspiciously like a collab between scott herren and dose... tasty. um why would only three people know m.f. doom? sure he's not as huge as dr. octogon :) but i thought mf_doom got a fair amt of press, certainly as much or more than prefuse... nonetheless consider my panties creamed j -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, multsanta wrote:

quoted 39 lines on 1/21/01 9:52 AM, Jon at k-rad@swbell.net wrote:

> on 1/21/01 9:52 AM, Jon at k-rad@swbell.net wrote: > > > successfull blend of idm and hip-hop, whereas funkstorung and company > > > still have a definite white-boy sound about them, prefuse could be > > > bumped in a gold rim hoo-ride =) and not feel particularly out of place. > > > It's got a radical ghetto vibe about it. > > this has to be the funniest thing i've read in a while, for so many reasons. > not funny- ha ha, but funny like a clown at a funeral. > > i think the first push button objects 12" on schematic was blacker than > richard pryor in a coal mine. > what a radical ghetto vibe! > > since when does music have a color? > also, i'd like to see mr. len or big juss' response to being told they have > a white boy sound. > > btw cannibal ox rocks my fucking world especially vast aire. but be > forewarned, they're BLACK and from the GHETTO!!?! so don't take this album > home to mommy! > > anyway, rumor has it that prefuse/scott herren's not only producing a full > length for dose one but also for the legendary mf doom pka zev love x. the > three people on here who actually know who that is should be creaming their > panties right now. > > > > > the more you know the more you know that you don't know shit > > www.gljtch.net > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty addicted to the lush tones and chopped-up flows, especially the cut-n-paste MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the record over every six minutes. Short of waiting for the next Prefuse/ other Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making anything remotely similar with/in hip-hop? I'm aware of the Anti-con and Rawkus labels, plus Madlib and the general aboveground rap, but otherwise I'm a relative neophyte on the hip-hop tip, so one needn't be all that obscure in the rec's (although recommending specific longplayers helps if the artist has a large body of work out there). Any and all tip-offs much appreciated. Thanks, M. "It is the promises that this place makes to me, promises that cannot be redeemed, that will confuse me later." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Old School Anything by Public Enemy or Rakim King Sun, "Be Black" Poor Righteous Teachers, "Rock Dis Funky Joint" Boogie Down Productions, "Why is that?" EPMD, "Rampage" Tribe Called Quest, "Scenario" New School The Herbalizer, "Who's the Realest?" Self Jupiter, "May Day" Sons of Mischief, "Get the Girl, Grab the Money and Run" Buckshot LeFonque, "Breakfast @ Denny's" Next School Lexaunculpt, "My Peach and My Pear" Jega, "Alternating Bit" Red Snapper, "The Sleepless" m@2zo www.thechisa.com "Like David said in the 23rd Psalm, 'Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death.' See, nobody say, 'Hey, man, let's go shoppin' in the valley of the shadow of death! Let's go buy a condo in the valley of the shadow of death!'" -- Mr. T --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

ok ok ok. i got into 'idm' through hip-hop so i would recomend.... stuff on breakin records bobby digital in stereo- bobby digital aka rza from wu-tang clan anything by ericb and rakim anything by... marley marl boogie down productions cut chemist dj babu dilated peoples black eyed peas jurrasic 5 common anything produced by rza or dj premier invisibl scratch picklz mix master mike beastie boys peanut butter wolf the beat junkies dj q-bert mos def bad magic dj plus-1 dj k-rock dj shadow RETURN OF THE DJ vol. 1+ 2+ 3 anything on HIP HOP SLAM records especially DJ SUSHI kool kieth/dr.doom/octagon/analog brothers etc. they all kick ass especially cut chemist _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

relatively new.. Reflection Eternal (Talib Kweli w/ DJ Hi Tek) is outstanding! of course, i've found anything with Talib Kweli in it ends up being fantastic. -----Original Message----- From: Aly Jamal To: idm@hyperreal.org Sent: 4/22/01 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Prefuse73 ok ok ok. i got into 'idm' through hip-hop so i would recomend.... stuff on breakin records bobby digital in stereo- bobby digital aka rza from wu-tang clan anything by ericb and rakim anything by... marley marl boogie down productions cut chemist dj babu dilated peoples black eyed peas jurrasic 5 common anything produced by rza or dj premier invisibl scratch picklz mix master mike beastie boys peanut butter wolf the beat junkies dj q-bert mos def bad magic dj plus-1 dj k-rock dj shadow RETURN OF THE DJ vol. 1+ 2+ 3 anything on HIP HOP SLAM records especially DJ SUSHI kool kieth/dr.doom/octagon/analog brothers etc. they all kick ass especially cut chemist ________________________________________________________________________ _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty

> All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty > addicted to the lush tones and chopped-up flows, especially the

cut-n-paste

quoted 2 lines MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the

> MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the > record over every six minutes. Short of waiting for the next Prefuse/

other

quoted 2 lines Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making

> Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making > anything remotely similar with/in hip-hop?

Check out Machine Drum "Now You Know" on Merck, it's hip-hop based idm with chopped up rap bits. A bit more electronic than P73, but they're moving the same way. Nick. ps: a couple of weeks age i've seen a message here saying that machine drum and syndrone is the same man. is it true? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, Nick Zavriev wrote:

quoted 5 lines Check out Machine Drum "Now You Know" on Merck, it's hip-hop based idm with

> Check out Machine Drum "Now You Know" on Merck, it's hip-hop based idm with > chopped up rap bits. A bit more electronic than P73, but they're moving the > same way. > > Nick.

I was listening to this album at NoiseNoiseNoise records in Costa Mesa, CA yesterday (made a quick trip down to OC to say goodbye to one of my best friends who's movin' to austin, TX)... and I was blown away. By all means, any Prefuse 73 fan should check this one out. Other points of reference: Riow Arai, Req ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yes he is the same guy and this is directly from Travis Stewart(Syndrone, Machine Drum himself. Rob+ ::::::Component Records::::::: Box 783, Somers, Ct 06071 www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Prefuse73

quoted 23 lines All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty

> > All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty > > addicted to the lush tones and chopped-up flows, especially the > cut-n-paste > > MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the > > record over every six minutes. Short of waiting for the next Prefuse/ > other > > Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making > > anything remotely similar with/in hip-hop? > > Check out Machine Drum "Now You Know" on Merck, it's hip-hop based idm with > chopped up rap bits. A bit more electronic than P73, but they're moving the > same way. > > Nick. > > ps: a couple of weeks age i've seen a message here saying that machine drum > and syndrone is the same man. is it true? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I loved Estrocaro too from the moment I first heard it, and I've been tremendously impressed with the mp3s I found of "Vocal Studies and Uprock Narratives", BUT... these days I'm finding that this Prefuse 73 stuff just doesn't go very far. While the tracks that initially impressed me still sound great, some of the others seem like filler, and the lushness has begun to get sort of cloying. To my surprise, a lot of them have also started to sound more and more similar to each other. As someone (?) said a few weeks ago, it would be a great soundtrack to an hour-long Gap commercial; it's just that I don't want to watch a Gap commercial for more than a minute or so. What are some other opinions on the album? --- All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty addicted to the lush tones and chopped-up flows, especially the cut-n-paste MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the record over every six minutes. Short of waiting for the next Prefuse/ other Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making anything remotely similar with/in hip-hop? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

yeah, you should try cLOUDDEAD doseone Mike Ladd Infesticons abstract hip hop is pretty kewl. went to see antipop consortium in london few weeks ago. that was wild... also check early detroit techno stuff. cybetron (juan atkins) techno city was just the beginning & was on fantasy records if i remember correctly.... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I found the album on mp3 a couple of days ago and have been listening to it over and over since. I think its an incredible album and while the tracks from Estrocaro are definitely highlights, i can't agree with the rest seeming like filler. The first four tracks of the album are all really awesome and then right after those tracks are all the estrocaro tracks. I'd say thats a pretty solid first half of an album. I also really dig Afternoon Love-In. Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing Prefuse 73 open up for Tortoise next month. What's the story with the Dose-One album I heard he was producing? -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Shultz" <pashultz@Princeton.EDU> Date: Sunday, April 22, 2001 5:58 pm Subject: Re: [idm] Prefuse73

quoted 20 lines I loved Estrocaro too from the moment I first heard it, and

> I loved Estrocaro too from the moment I first heard it, and > I've been > tremendously impressed with the mp3s I found of "Vocal Studies and > UprockNarratives", BUT... these days I'm finding that this Prefuse > 73 stuff just > doesn't go very far. > While the tracks that initially impressed me still sound great, > some of > the others seem like filler, and the lushness has begun to get > sort of > cloying. To my surprise, a lot of them have also started to sound > more and > more similar to each other. As someone (?) said a few weeks ago, > it would > be a great soundtrack to an hour-long Gap commercial; it's just > that I don't > want to watch a Gap commercial for more than a minute or so. > What are some other opinions on the album? > >

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'vein', the new cannibal ox 12" is fucking amazing. i''m talking shit-your-pants fantastic. it's been in (literally) constant rotation here for the past month or so. the album should be revolutionary. other than that i don't know what would be sonically similar to what herren's doing. but in terms of 'experimental' hip hop, lyrically i think the essential shit to check would be as follows: de la soul - ...is dead organized konfusion - stress log cabin crew (their early demos never saw a proper release, but you can probably napster the shit) freestyle fellowship - inner city griots company flow - funcrusher and whatever anyone tells you, don't buy into any of that idm by numbers pansy ass machine drum shit. At 09:18 PM 4/22/01 +0000, you wrote:

quoted 17 lines Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:44:19 -0700

>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:44:19 -0700 >To: idm@hyperreal.org >From: "Matthew Korfhage" <pomomofo2000@hotmail.com> >Subject: Prefuse73 >Message-ID: <F1198VUkRacUtI9dm5U000081b7@hotmail.com> > >All right, so Estrocaro is getting a bit short for me. I've gotten pretty >addicted to the lush tones and chopped-up flows, especially the cut-n-paste >MC bits that pop in and out, but I'm a little tired of having to flip the >record over every six minutes. Short of waiting for the next Prefuse/ other >Herren project, does anyone have any recomendations on anyone making >anything remotely similar with/in hip-hop? I'm aware of the Anti-con and >Rawkus labels, plus Madlib and the general aboveground rap, but otherwise >I'm a relative neophyte on the hip-hop tip, so one needn't be all that >obscure in the rec's (although recommending specific longplayers helps if >the artist has a large body of work out there). Any and all tip-offs much >appreciated.

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On Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:51:13 -0400, multsanta wrote:

quoted 2 lines 'vein', the new cannibal ox 12" is fucking amazing. i''m talking

> 'vein', the new cannibal ox 12" is fucking amazing. i''m talking > shit-your-pants fantastic. it's been in (literally) constant rotation

here

quoted 1 line for the past month or so. the album should be revolutionary.

> for the past month or so. the album should be revolutionary.

Cool. Thanks for mentioning this mult. I usually take your suggestions seriously.(and you are almost always right!) Even though you never fulfilled your end of a deal we had over 2 years ago.(but I won't hold that against you!) :)

quoted 2 lines and whatever anyone tells you, don't buy into any of that idm by numbers

> and whatever anyone tells you, don't buy into any of that idm by numbers > pansy ass machine drum shit.

Woah! Huh?!?! Your kidding right!?! I love Machine Drum and his production under his other name Syndrone. Don't diss him. He has produced some lovely hard-edged hip-hopish stuff.(some of the tracks are very BoC-ish even) You don't like anything he has produced, but you love Prefuse 73? I can't see how you could say that!?! They are very similar in my opinion. I respect your opinion, but I recommend that everyone go out and buy Machine Drums's Now You Know. It is the type of album you can play straight through without skipping songs!(The kind I like! :))(Also get the new Prefuse 73, because it is equally incredible!) Joe Joe _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Thanks to everyone who provided recommendations for the discriminating Prefuse fan (me, I suppose). I'll have my work cut out for me at the record store next time I pop in. Oh, and just for fun, check this out if you go in for high-flying action: http://formenmedia.ign.com/media/news/image/hardcore/stickfight3.swf It's gorgeous. Cheers, M. "It is the promises this place makes to me, promises that cannot be redeemed, that will confuse me later." _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org