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well i could tell you that futurism evolved in the early 20th century around the same time as cubism. It concentrated on movement and progress. THere was an obsession w/ technology and the machine, and how we should completely take advantage of it's benefits. The old world order should be stopped to make way for the new, fast paced environment. Given this, i guess futurists would be all for technological advancement. And because of the fact that technology and electronic music go hand in hand, there is definitely a relation. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

The darker side of Futurism was the movement's observation of war as a great technological catalyst, and the inexorable link between the Italian Futurists and the Italian Fascists. Indeed, war and the preparation for war (and as Ronald Reagan would tell you, the prevention of war) are responsible for so many of the modern conveniences we enjoy today. Like the network infrastructure that allows delivery of this e-mail list for instance. I certainly don't condone Fascism and really I cannot understand how technological advancement, which requires a certain amount of free thinking and autocratic operation to flourish, could be considered an ally of Fascism. Aside from these blemishes, I can find much resonation between Futurism and my own feelings about art and technology, which are probably shared with a significant portion of the people on this list. josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, ff g wrote:

quoted 23 lines well i could tell you that futurism evolved in the

> well i could tell you that futurism evolved in the > early 20th century around the same time as cubism. It > concentrated on movement and progress. THere was an > obsession w/ technology and the machine, and how we > should completely take advantage of it's benefits. The > old world order should be stopped to make way for the > new, fast paced environment. > Given this, i guess futurists would be all for > technological advancement. And because of the fact > that technology and electronic music go hand in hand, > there is definitely a relation. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. > http://experts.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Josh Davison wrote:

quoted 4 lines I certainly don't condone Fascism and really I cannot understand how

> I certainly don't condone Fascism and really I cannot understand how > technological advancement, which requires a certain amount of free > thinking and autocratic operation to flourish, could be considered an ally > of Fascism.

Free thinking, however, cannot act on its own. It requires constraint and Fascism is definitely an extreme constraint. I mean, look at the technical advances that Nazi Germany made during World War II.. the development of ballistic missiles, atomic weaponry, jet engines, etc. Their scientists and engineers provided the world with some of the most important technological advances during the century. Which opens a whole other can of worms about the US government's dealing with these post-fascist scientists.. -- andrij. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

yes, rethinking this, i recognize my own productivity is greatly enhanced when i am under strict specifications and deadlines, combined with the promise of distasteful consequences for failure. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, andrij kopytko wrote:

quoted 26 lines On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Josh Davison wrote:

> On Thu, 2 Nov 2000, Josh Davison wrote: > > > I certainly don't condone Fascism and really I cannot understand how > > technological advancement, which requires a certain amount of free > > thinking and autocratic operation to flourish, could be considered an ally > > of Fascism. > > Free thinking, however, cannot act on its own. It requires constraint and > Fascism is definitely an extreme constraint. I mean, look at the technical > advances that Nazi Germany made during World War II.. the development of > ballistic missiles, atomic weaponry, jet engines, etc. Their scientists > and engineers provided the world with some of the most important > technological advances during the century. > > Which opens a whole other can of worms about the US government's dealing > with these post-fascist scientists.. > > -- > andrij. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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