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response to: Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:15:58 -0500 From: kurt <supine@bway.net> Subject: warp 10 +1 Message-Id: <v04011702b44a941c279c@[216.220.110.57]>

quoted 4 lines The widely varying opinions on this compilation (I guess) depend on the

> The widely varying opinions on this compilation (I guess) depend on the > age of the listener. as one of the Warp10+1 complainers, I'll venture to > say that I'm 42. and the tracks I don't like (most of them) wouldn't > have appealed to me 11 years ago either.

Alright, somebody's gotta say something. These tracks are key artifacts to a past urban electronic culture that, at your age, obviously you never were a part of, though you were alive and aware at the time? For us living in the city, these tracks were our visions of the future. Name what else in early to mid-late 80's was as pioneering, electronicly, as the sounds coming out of Chicago (acid house), Detroit (techno,electro) and New York (electro,house). Eventhough you don't get it, give thanks that people like Aphex, Autechre, Mike Dred, Push Button Objects, Bochum Welt, etc did. And give thanks that it gave the pioneering vision to the guys at Warp, because a world without Warp (especially in the early-mid 90's) would have made for a scarey world.

quoted 3 lines But I think you're right that there must be awareness of the music's

>But I think you're right that there must be awareness of the music's >original context that is giving some listeners such a hard-on for this >stuff.

Good for you, though the hard-on is yours against something you never were down with from day one. New York City runs through these veins daily house, electro and hip hop are like were like religion growing up. Eventhough by the early to mid 90's I grew uninterested with the general direction that urban electrronic music had taken here in the states, I found well fused elements and an inventive progression in the UK underground scene with labels like Warp, Outer Rhythm, Rythm King and Rephlex. Perfect testament to this is the 10+2 Classics release which reflects the bleep style of that time. Fact remained I knew were it mainly all came from and won't forget it. People have to be schooled on roots and essense or else it all goes to shit. Now this Influence comp maybe they aren't as extensive as people who know the deal might like but what do you want a 25 peice vinyl release? Warp picked a few thing and thats that, I don't think they intended to create the bible of Influences. A lot of tracks are missing and a lot maybe shouldn't have been added. And I also think there should have been 4 comps one between the bleep era and the remixes. No classic Aphex, Black Dog....I believe this has to do more with making money off people later with re-issues of rare tracks than just a slight oversight on their part.

quoted 1 line Are there any of you out there who weren't familiar with these tracks

>Are there any of you out there who weren't familiar with these tracks

when

quoted 1 line they came out who are getting blown away by them now?

>they came out who are getting blown away by them now?

Like I said your question is irrelovent and you missed the boat. It only mattered that at the time it blew away peolpe and inspired them to combine it with their own visions of the future and take it to the next. By the way this is not a personal thing towards you, it's a general statement against an entire age group of people that think like you and were alive during this evolution. I don't expect kids under 21 to really get it because it was before their time, though many people I've met in this age group acquire a taste for the old school sound of the 80's. But people over 25 or so who just jumped on the underground urban electronic bandwagon a couple years ago when back in the 80's they were probably listening to Ratt, Adam Ant, Bon Jovi, Milli Vanilli and whatever other crap was being transmitted via TV or radio, get nooooo props when they open the yap, and in future if you don't know you better ask somebody..... p.s. 10+3 seriously lacks and with a few minor expections is one of the biggest wastes of vinyl and expensive packaging in 10 years. Surgeon doing jungle, yeah a cute idea but how about a track that's dope though? Will Warp have to go back to the 80's and get some of that inspiration back. La Mano Fria from the TPM crew... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org