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(idm) re: not quite music

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1999-09-30 15:30Philip Sherburne (idm) re: not quite music
└─ 1999-10-24 20:00R. Lim (idm) unmusic
1999-09-30 15:46david turgeon Re: (idm) re: not quite music
1999-09-30 15:52Philip Sherburne RE: (idm) re: not quite music
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1999-09-30 15:30Philip SherburneFunny, just last night I was thinking about Bernhard Gunter & Ralf Wehowsky... I'd definit
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Philip Sherburne
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Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:30:59 -0700
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(idm) re: not quite music
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Funny, just last night I was thinking about Bernhard Gunter & Ralf Wehowsky... I'd definitely think they would fit the description. Funny thing about both of them -- I've always had trouble listening to them -- quite literally -- because I just can't hear them. My stereo's not good enough; once I turn the volume up high enough to hear what's on the CD, the hum from my system drowns it all out. I'm sure there's an irony there somewhere. (Carsten Nicolai tells a funny story about Francisco Lopez sending Bernhard Gunter a tape of some of his material... and Gunter calls him up and says, "But the tape is blank!!") So much for IDM humor. True story, though. As for Or, the only thing I've got is the new Shirt Trax, which features Mark Fell from snd, and is NOTHING like snd. Abstract hardly describes it. More like totally random and without organization. I haven't decided what I think yet; as of early listens, it may be total crap, or it could be genius (yes, i AM bipolar). Stay tuned! philip
quoted 3 lines Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:44:38 -0700 (PDT)>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:44:38 -0700 (PDT) >From: solenoid <solenoid@syncopated.net> >Subject: Re: (idm) not quite music recommendations
quoted 1 line Hmm, that is really interesting! Do these guys fit that description also:>Hmm, that is really interesting! Do these guys fit that description also:
quoted 1 line Bernard Gunter, Ralf Wehowsky, and P16.D4> Bernard Gunter, Ralf Wehowsky, and P16.D4
quoted 1 line Is a lot of stuff on Or pretty abstract?>Is a lot of stuff on Or pretty abstract?
solenoid
1999-10-24 20:00R. LimOn Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote: > (Carsten Nicolai tells a funny story about
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Sun, 24 Oct 1999 16:00:32 -0400 (EDT)
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(idm) re: not quite music
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On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Philip Sherburne wrote:
quoted 3 lines (Carsten Nicolai tells a funny story about Francisco Lopez sending Bernhard> (Carsten Nicolai tells a funny story about Francisco Lopez sending Bernhard > Gunter a tape of some of his material... and Gunter calls him up and says, > "But the tape is blank!!") So much for IDM humor. True story, though.
Perhaps Lopez sent a copy of _Paris Hiss_, which contains two works entirely composed of successively overdubbed tape hiss (it exists only on cassette, natch). To quote from the liner notes (because I like them so much): "...Tape hiss, commonly considered as an obnoxious property of analog tapes, is thus enhanced and appreciated here as a delightful virtue. I did a selection and further mix of the recordings for the two pieces of _Paris Hiss_, since this work expresses my anti-Lucier view: the point is not the process but the results; I did what I did not because I'm interested in the procedure (which is a question of recipes), but because I like tape hiss! (which is a question of taste)..." Clearly, Sr. Lopez does not distinguish btwn the good and bad Lucier pieces... his loss, I guess. By the way, I made it through 10 excruciatingly uneventful minutes of the first piece of _Hiss_ before realizing that my Dolby NR was ON. -rob np (in my head)- Alvin Lucier "Silver Streetcar for the Orchestra" (Algen)
1999-09-30 15:46david turgeon> As for Or, the only thing I've got is the new Shirt Trax, which features > Mark Fell fro
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david turgeon
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Philip Sherburne
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Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:46:29 -0400
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Re: (idm) re: not quite music
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quoted 5 lines As for Or, the only thing I've got is the new Shirt Trax, which features> As for Or, the only thing I've got is the new Shirt Trax, which features > Mark Fell from snd, and is NOTHING like snd. Abstract hardly describes it. > More like totally random and without organization. I haven't decided what I > think yet; as of early listens, it may be total crap, or it could be genius > (yes, i AM bipolar). Stay tuned!
are the sounds a bit like snd though? snd has a pretty distinct sonority from what i can tell: bleepy & soothing. i'd love to hear these sounds in a more abstract organization than the 'dubby minimal techno' stuff snd released ~ which is good stuff, but as with all in that genre, it does get a little boring after a while. ~ david
1999-09-30 15:52Philip Sherburneno, what's interesting is that the palette is *nothing* like snd. much harsher, much more
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Philip Sherburne
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Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:52:52 -0700
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RE: (idm) re: not quite music
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no, what's interesting is that the palette is *nothing* like snd. much harsher, much more trebly; none of the bubbly, soothing (you're spot on, there) textures from the snd releases. on this morning's listen, i'm definitely enjoying it more than yesterday. but i'd certainly never have guessed this was snd-related.
quoted 23 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: david turgeon [SMTP:david@evolutiontech.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:46 AM > To: Philip Sherburne > Cc: 'idm@hyperreal.org' > Subject: Re: (idm) re: not quite music > > > As for Or, the only thing I've got is the new Shirt Trax, which features > > Mark Fell from snd, and is NOTHING like snd. Abstract hardly describes > it. > > More like totally random and without organization. I haven't decided > what I > > think yet; as of early listens, it may be total crap, or it could be > genius > > (yes, i AM bipolar). Stay tuned! > > are the sounds a bit like snd though? snd has a pretty distinct > sonority from what i can tell: bleepy & soothing. i'd love to hear > these sounds in a more abstract organization than the 'dubby minimal > techno' stuff snd released ~ which is good stuff, but as with all in > that genre, it does get a little boring after a while. > > ~ david