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Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility? Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers. People on it would be either a) trying to emulate the sounds of another track with their synths b) using the same melodies with similar sounds, or c) taking the same structure, from beat to lead line, and using completely different sounds (like taking someone else's MIDI file and changing the pathc numbers, essentially) Like "Endlessnessism" and similar projects, we could start off with one track from somebody who's willing to be number one (I volunteer!) and then ship DATs/audio files around until we had 74 minutes' worth of sample-free boom. So- whad'ya think? Tom

On Wed, 11 Aug 1999, Tom Millar wrote:

quoted 9 lines Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility?

> Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility? > > Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers. > People on it would be either > a) trying to emulate the sounds of another track with their synths > b) using the same melodies with similar sounds, or > c) taking the same structure, from beat to lead line, and using > completely different sounds (like taking someone else's MIDI file and > changing the pathc numbers, essentially)

I'm doing this for several remixes for the Mad MOnkey label's Neutral full-length; no samplers. In fact I've eliminated the original samples from my remix and even imitated some of the sounds (sampled harp or violin plucking) with new sequences of additional synths. For me the remix is about timbral changes and re-composition of the midi data. There will probably be some mp3 versions of these remixes on the bonus cdr with the first batch of cds pressed (a limited edition of some number). Call me naive, but wasn't this what 'remixing' really meant before everyone had samplers? Essentially re-engineering and re-composing...? Just as in the world of sound-mangling plugings for software, there are tricks for re-composing/mixing: logic audio can let you flip the melody around is strange ways, as can Cubase's phrase synthesizer. Putting portions of melodies into arpeggiators, step sequencers and looping them in odd times outside of midi control....reversing note order. Not that any of that guarrantees a good result...

quoted 6 lines Like "Endlessnessism" and similar projects, we could start off with one

> Like "Endlessnessism" and similar projects, we could start off with one > track from somebody who's willing to be number one (I volunteer!) and > then ship DATs/audio files around until we had 74 minutes' worth of > sample-free boom. > > So- whad'ya think?

I would only have time to really work on this after i play gigs through Sept when my studio gets back in order, but I'd like to give it a whirl. (in "midi-whirler", my latest plugin, set on 'auto-whirl', of course) Solenoid

quoted 2 lines Tom

> Tom >

Tom Millar wrote:

quoted 7 lines Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers.

> Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers. > People on it would be either > a) trying to emulate the sounds of another track with their synths > b) using the same melodies with similar sounds, or > c) taking the same structure, from beat to lead line, and using > completely different sounds (like taking someone else's MIDI file and > changing the pathc numbers, essentially)

that's not remixes, that's covers. :) -- david

quoted 4 lines that's not remixes, that's covers. :)

> that's not remixes, that's covers. :) > > -- > david

Yeah. But we're talkin' about TECHNO, man, nobody does covers in TECHNO. it's a REMIX now. Deal.

Tom: Sounds like an interesting idea. I'd be happy to participate in this. Andrew Duke :) Tom Millar wrote:

quoted 18 lines Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility?

> Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility? > > Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers. > People on it would be either > a) trying to emulate the sounds of another track with their synths > b) using the same melodies with similar sounds, or > c) taking the same structure, from beat to lead line, and using > completely different sounds (like taking someone else's MIDI file and > changing the pathc numbers, essentially) > > Like "Endlessnessism" and similar projects, we could start off with one > track from somebody who's willing to be number one (I volunteer!) and > then ship DATs/audio files around until we had 74 minutes' worth of > sample-free boom. > > So- whad'ya think? > > Tom

-- Andrew Duke's In The Mix show588:Danny Wang & Andy Vaz/show587:Theorem & Baby Pop/show 586:Sicko & Nova/show585:Brinkmann & Duriez listen here: http://www.globalserve.net/~cognition

Sounds like fun. Count me in, I'd love to give it a try. Eddie Tom Millar <tmillar@utkux.utcc.utk.edu> wrote:

quoted 18 lines Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility?

>Is anybody besides me here interested in this possibility? > >Think: a CD of "Remixes" made entirely without the use of samplers. >People on it would be either >a) trying to emulate the sounds of another track with their synths >b) using the same melodies with similar sounds, or >c) taking the same structure, from beat to lead line, and using >completely different sounds (like taking someone else's MIDI file and >changing the pathc numbers, essentially) > >Like "Endlessnessism" and similar projects, we could start off with one >track from somebody who's willing to be number one (I volunteer!) and >then ship DATs/audio files around until we had 74 minutes' worth of >sample-free boom. > >So- whad'ya think? > >Tom