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1999-04-22 19:28Warren Lapham (idm) The Middle of Nowhere
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1999-04-25 16:36Warp Yourself Re: (idm) The Middle of Nowhere
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1999-04-22 19:28Warren LaphamAfter seeing a general lack of in-depth posts about the new Orbital full-length, I thought
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After seeing a general lack of in-depth posts about the new Orbital full-length, I thought I'd share my thoughts about this release with the list...Blade Runner sample spotting and AFX clones debates be damned! Everyone who has said something about this record has mentioned that Orbital has deviated from the path that they had been on, that this album sounds nothing like their previous work...even that they have taken a step backwards. I'll agree as far as the change in sound goes, but not direction...the song structures and melodies on _The Middle of Nowhere_ are still very much Orbital, but the arrangements are where the difference lies. I respect musicians who deviate from the formula that bought them notoriety, or better yet, avoid those ruts altogether. Having said that, merely respecting an artist isn't the same as enjoying their art... But I enjoy this album immensely. I would prefer to think of it a step sideways rather than a step backwards; this vast difference in sound threw me at the beginning, too...but I think I've been able to wrap my head around it, finally. (Granted, the way in which it makes sense may be a million miles from what P & P had in mind, but the issue of the validity of that is another debate.) I think that the Hartnolls had the notion that this album didn't fit too well in the context of their previous works in mind when they named it. The outer sleeve for the CD is mostly white, with a grainy, shadowy figure on the front, and a pair of such figures on the inside of the sleeve. These figures have no context whatsoever in the packaging, and, in a way (and this is where I think that most of those who have slagged this release would agree with me), it's hard to find a context for this album. I'm not normally one to try and find such a firm link between packaging and music, but I can't help it here. The notion that the release of this album was a backwards movement, especially in light of the variety of many of the sounds that are on the album, is easy to understand. A typical "rave anthem" chord progression rears its head in several places along the course of the album. Many of the sounds used sound unashamedly retro, perhaps even dated (or "cheesy")...a 303, an organ...and Orbital still employ breathy, ethereal female vocals, which is rare among acts that get the most attention on this list. There weren't even that many on _In Sides_, as I recall... _Style_ (the album version differs only slightly from the single version of the same name) uses a lot of primitive-sounding sine-wave tones as the basis for its melodies...not to mention that it samples a cover of Erasure's first big hit, "Oh l'Amour." (Disclaimer: I could, and probably am, reading a lot more into this than I ought to, but that's part of the problem with releasing art out into the world, isn't it?) So how does this all fit together? Well, my take on this album is that it is a context-free nod toward both the past and the future. The upcoming change in the thousands digit of the Western calendar's year seems to be a mental stumbling block for a lot people, myself included. I sense that this album could be a reaction to the general displacement that such an arbitrary-digital-rollover milestone can bring. This album belongs nowhere, but it also belongs everywhere...then again, this could be my own personal displacement and soul-searching bleeding into things. As far as the tracks themselves are concerned, the first, "Way Out ->," just soars with its trumpets and synthetic strings...we begin the slide into darkness and aggression through the still-somewhat-pretty "Spare Parts Express" and the angreier, noisier "Know Where to Run", and the thick, rocky guitars and angry vocal samples of "I Don't Know You People" are the climax of this emotional direction. The second half of the album brings us closer to the light, and the 16-minute "Nothing Left" gets us almost all the way there...the simple bleepiness that forms the basis of "Style" (together with the afore-mentioned Erasure sample...just a loop of a woman singing, "Now I'm aching for you") rounds out the cycle...back to soaring. I can't tell you to like this album; I can only ask, if you're an Orbital fan, that you not dismiss it based on sounds clips, or even an initial listen. I came close to that, and, knowing what I know now, that would've been a mistake. (But I probably wouldn't have known it.) Putting the 'idm' back in 'idm,' -w. (pretense watchers: please note that nowhere, except here, did I use the terms 'Y2K,' 'millenium,' 'fin-de-siecle,' or 'postmodern.' please adjust your flames accordingly. besides, we're past the appearance of those words now anyway, so what does it matter?) -- Warren Lapham laps@2350.org FAXlabel reviews : http://www.2350.org/
1999-04-23 01:38phlux@ix.netcom.comMy opinion- Its a great record that fits in quite well with Orbital's past works. I'd say
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My opinion- Its a great record that fits in quite well with Orbital's past works. I'd say that its about on par with Insides but definately has a unique character. I must have listened to it 10 times last week. Rob Codec! http://www.mindstorm.com/codec LogiQ http://www.sinless.com/logiq
1999-04-25 16:36Warp YourselfI'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the import which turned o
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I'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the import which turned out to be 8 tracks long and only 64 minutes. So with that sort of investment I really really wanted to hear more clever beautiful Orbital arrangements and melodies (The Box!!!). After waiting so long to hear something new from them only to be somewhat disappointed with this new outing. Anyone who liked Orbital in the past should definitely *LISTEN* (as I didn't) to this album before purchasing. I spent $13 picking up the Soul Oddity that I had intended to get since I saw Phoenicia in Hollywood and this is the only reason I don't feel like that shopping trip was a waste. That and Jimi Tenor's Organism. David
quoted 9 lines From: phlux@ix.netcom.com>From: phlux@ix.netcom.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: (idm) The Middle of Nowhere >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:38:16 -0500 (CDT) > >My opinion- > >Its a great record that fits in quite well with Orbital's past works. >I'd say that its about on par with Insides but definately has a
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quoted 7 lines character. I must have listened to it 10 times last week.>character. I must have listened to it 10 times last week. > >Rob > > >Codec! http://www.mindstorm.com/codec >LogiQ http://www.sinless.com/logiq
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1999-04-25 18:49Greg ClowOn Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Warp Yourself wrote: > I'm quite surprised to hear the positive revie
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On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Warp Yourself wrote:
quoted 2 lines I'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the> I'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the > import which turned out to be 8 tracks long and only 64 minutes.
"Only 64 minutes"???? Jeezus. Surely I'm not the only one here who remembers when an album more than 35-40 minutes was considered long? (I'm talkin' to you, Mr. Earle!) You kids today are spoiled by the up-to-80 minute CD medium. Back in my day... mumble grumble... Greg
1999-04-25 19:30Aaron S MichelsonExcerpts from mail: 25-Apr-99 Re: (idm) The Middle of Now.. by Greg Clow@interlog.com > Yo
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Excerpts from mail: 25-Apr-99 Re: (idm) The Middle of Now.. by Greg Clow@interlog.com
quoted 2 lines You kids today are spoiled by the up-to-80 minute CD medium. Back in my> You kids today are spoiled by the up-to-80 minute CD medium. Back in my > day... mumble grumble...
Damn straight! Back in my day crusty labels like Rephlex were releasing 39 minute Cylob CDs and 28 minute Bochum Welt CDs. :) Aaron
1999-04-25 16:48lazloIt should probably be said that MoN may appeal to those who liked the brown album--there a
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It should probably be said that MoN may appeal to those who liked the brown album--there are a lot of similarities, "jolly"-ness not withstanding. I rather liked MoN for its "Lush" qualities... laz Warp Yourself wrote:
quoted 37 lines I'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the> I'm quite surprised to hear the positive reviews. I paid $27 for the > import which turned out to be 8 tracks long and only 64 minutes. > So with that sort of investment I really really wanted to hear more > clever beautiful Orbital arrangements and melodies (The Box!!!). > After waiting so long to hear something new from them only to be > somewhat disappointed with this new outing. > > Anyone who liked Orbital in the past should definitely *LISTEN* (as I > didn't) to this album before purchasing. > > I spent $13 picking up the Soul Oddity that I had intended to get > since I saw Phoenicia in Hollywood and this is the only reason I > don't feel like that shopping trip was a waste. That and Jimi > Tenor's Organism. > > David > > >From: phlux@ix.netcom.com > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: (idm) The Middle of Nowhere > >Date: Thu, 22 Apr 1999 20:38:16 -0500 (CDT) > > > >My opinion- > > > >Its a great record that fits in quite well with Orbital's past works. > >I'd say that its about on par with Insides but definately has a > unique > >character. I must have listened to it 10 times last week. > > > >Rob > > > > > >Codec! http://www.mindstorm.com/codec > >LogiQ http://www.sinless.com/logiq > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com