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the best thing about amp: one of the few times i saw this program, they started it with NO warning by showing an oval video. my little crappy speaker on my tv started speaking to me in poppy, tonal tongues.. and suddenly my tv went to weird color textures. it was good fun! almost as fun as seeing mr oval almost die live (pushing buttons and moving a mouse is quite exhausting!). chris.

On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Dr. Smith wrote:

quoted 8 lines The week

> > The week > > before last, I saw a brief MTV station ID clip with a Boards of Canada song > > playing. The imagery was just these dots moving around a background, it > > looked like a Flash animation on some web page. It was actually pretty > > cool; stylish visual stuff going on, BoC playing. I could like MTV if it > > were like that all the time. > > What BoC track?

It is "one very important thought". It is some woman telling you that "this next video is something super-new and groovy and you should watch it", or something like that. Oh wait, I just remembered, I don't watch MTV... ;) Hess

On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 16:43:54 +0200, you wrote:

quoted 3 lines Yeah, I've heard some FSOL, Aphex, and Squarepusher in their commercials too. It

> Yeah, I've heard some FSOL, Aphex, and Squarepusher in their commercials too. It >seems that someone at MTV knows what good music is, but they must be kept locked up >in a storage closet somewhere.

This reminds me of something BBC2 were doing a few years back. They were actually playing snippets from various Autechre tracks (mainly Amber/Tri Repetae) during all their programme links. BBC2! This is a mainstream BBC channel broadcast to the masses. Excellent stuff. -- /\/)ark headspin - http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

How does anyone watch AMP? I made the effort several times in the past for 2:00 am Sunday (right?) and instead got MTVs retarded Spring Break Mission or a Road Rules marathon or some crap like that. When I have caught it, it's been decent, but there are only so many nights that I will go through the trouble only to have Carson Daley cracking jokes for 12 and 13 year olds. <rant id="MTVsucks"> MTV really sucks these days, maybe because I've grown up (I'm 23) but really, who wants to watch Karaoke? What about "video cliche"? What type of programming is that? I guess their target market is early teenage (13 or so) though, so maybe I'm just an OG. It's too bad MTV is watering down kids brains though... </rant> David

quoted 7 lines From: "..:??_.??::_.?:." <causticwindow@dasia.net>

>From: "..:??_.??::_.?:." <causticwindow@dasia.net> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: (idm) did anyone see amp tonight >Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 02:57:51 -0700 > >did anyone see amp? >they aired the windowlicker commercial seems kind of suiting, i guess

this

quoted 3 lines settles the arguement "has aphex gone commercial?" yes he sure did.

>settles the arguement "has aphex gone commercial?" yes he sure did. > >after that the aired squarepusher's "come on my selector." finally get

to

quoted 2 lines see it on a quality picture, instead of real video. got to read the

>see it on a quality picture, instead of real video. got to read the >subtitles and everything, he even appears in the video which i never

knew.

quoted 2 lines what a bizarre night

> >what a bizarre night

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At 07:55 AM 4/6/99 -0700, Warp Yourself wrote:

quoted 4 lines <rant id="MTVsucks">

><rant id="MTVsucks"> >MTV really sucks these days, maybe because I've grown up (I'm 23) but >really, who wants to watch Karaoke? What about "video cliche"? What >type of programming is that?

The real reason that MTV completely bites isn't that they hardly play music, and when they do, it sucks. It's that MTV is awaer of and recognizes talent, so you'll hear, say, 12 seconds of a Scanner song with some trippy little computer animations and an MTV logo during commercials. My younger sister (she's 17) watches MTV just about every day, so I've gotten intimately familiar with every popular Korn and Limp Bizkit song being played right now, since I hear them every day when I wake up, and when I come home from classes. Every few weeks I'll sit down and watch it with her, just to see if MTV is doing anything interesting. The week before last, I saw a brief MTV station ID clip with a Boards of Canada song playing. The imagery was just these dots moving around a background, it looked like a Flash animation on some web page. It was actually pretty cool; stylish visual stuff going on, BoC playing. I could like MTV if it were like that all the time. Then it stopped and they started playing a No Doubt song where the singer of No Doubt Goes Raving(tm). If MTV were just stupid, it would be one thing. Knowingly peddling dumb music is just annoying. Oh well, who cares about MTV. I wish I had some new music purchases to review from my trip to Berkeley yesterday, but I don't. I went into the city and stopped by Ameoba briefly. I got Gorgoroth's _Antichrist_ cd, but it's not very topical to the list, and it was a disappointing cd anyway. True Northern IDM forever! ---- "According to the law of primogeniture this moon-cheese is mine. The UN? Ha! I spit on the UN!" [Pokey the Penguin] 5678>> http://www.pobox.com/~jpitrman/

At 01:09 PM 4/6/99 -0700, Jeff Pitrman wrote:

quoted 9 lines playing. The imagery was just these dots moving around a background, it

>playing. The imagery was just these dots moving around a background, it >looked like a Flash animation on some web page. It was actually pretty >cool; stylish visual stuff going on, BoC playing. I could like MTV if it >were like that all the time. Then it stopped and they started playing a No >Doubt song where the singer of No Doubt Goes Raving(tm). > If MTV were just stupid, it would be one thing. Knowingly peddling dumb >music is just annoying. > Oh well, who cares about MTV. >

Get over it. MTV is a business, and their audience (13-20 year olds primarily, I imagine) do not want "flash animations" and BoC. They want Limp Bizkits, Korn, and all that other horse shit. If you owned the station, you'd do the same. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu

On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Jeff Pitrman wrote:

quoted 15 lines The real reason that MTV completely bites isn't that they hardly play

> The real reason that MTV completely bites isn't that they hardly play > music, and when they do, it sucks. It's that MTV is awaer of and > recognizes talent, so you'll hear, say, 12 seconds of a Scanner song with > some trippy little computer animations and an MTV logo during commercials. > My younger sister (she's 17) watches MTV just about every day, so I've > gotten intimately familiar with every popular Korn and Limp Bizkit song > being played right now, since I hear them every day when I wake up, and > when I come home from classes. Every few weeks I'll sit down and watch it > with her, just to see if MTV is doing anything interesting. The week > before last, I saw a brief MTV station ID clip with a Boards of Canada song > playing. The imagery was just these dots moving around a background, it > looked like a Flash animation on some web page. It was actually pretty > cool; stylish visual stuff going on, BoC playing. I could like MTV if it > were like that all the time. Then it stopped and they started playing a No > Doubt song where the singer of No Doubt Goes Raving(tm).

It's the same with all MTVish radio stations. A few weeks ago I was listening to WBCN in Boston and while the DJ was intoducing the next crappy track he was going to play, Borads of Canada was playing in the background.

quoted 4 lines It's the same with all MTVish radio stations. A few weeks ago I was

>It's the same with all MTVish radio stations. A few weeks ago I was >listening to WBCN in Boston and while the DJ was intoducing the next >crappy track he was going to play, Borads of Canada was playing in the >background.

i just can't help thinking that if aphex twin and boreds of canada were every other song on mtv/commercial radio that there would be a lot more sammy hagar fans than there are now. the tom green show is pretty funny. eric

On Tue, 06 Apr 1999 07:55:07 PDT, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines I guess their target market is early teenage (13 or so) though, so maybe

>I guess their target market is early teenage (13 or so) though, so maybe >I'm just an OG. It's too bad MTV is watering down kids brains though...

It's even worse over here (UK). During the day it's non-stop pop for the kids, whilst during the evening it seems to turn into the R&B channel. All the decent programmes they used to have (Alternative Nation and Chillout) have long since been shortened, watered down or removed entirely. -- /\/)ark headspin - http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

quoted 1 line And what's this about MTV still airing "AMP"? Am I getting screwed out

> And what's this about MTV still airing "AMP"? Am I getting screwed out

of their

quoted 1 line only decent show because I live in the midwest? I haven't seen "amp" for

>only decent show because I live in the midwest? I haven't seen "amp" for

over a

quoted 1 line year! That's the deal?!

>year! That's the deal?!

Well, if you were thrown by the switch to DST like I was you would have been awake at 2:00 am MONDAY morning (ie, really late Sunday night) and would have caught some shitty drum and bass videos off the WaxTrax label and turned off amp like I did. I can't guarantee this is the normal airing time but it would kind of make sense - hide it in the least watched block of time during the week. You'll get your eyes worth if you can catch MTV's baby sister, M2 - all they show is videos, all genres, old and new, with only a bunch of annoying M2 bumpers to disrupt them. Too bad it only seems to be available on the direct satellite services. paul

quoted 6 lines Well, if you were thrown by the switch to DST like I was you would

> Well, if you were thrown by the switch to DST like I was you would > have been awake at 2:00 am MONDAY morning (ie, really late Sunday > night) and would have caught some shitty drum and bass videos off > the WaxTrax label and turned off amp like I did. I can't guarantee this > is the normal airing time but it would kind of make sense - hide it in > the least watched block of time during the week.

Yeah, it comes on after 120 Minutes most weeks. I usually stick around for a few minutes and watch the first video.

quoted 4 lines You'll get your eyes worth if you can catch MTV's baby sister, M2 - all

> You'll get your eyes worth if you can catch MTV's baby sister, M2 - all > they show is videos, all genres, old and new, with only a bunch of > annoying M2 bumpers to disrupt them. Too bad it only seems to be > available on the direct satellite services.

To their credit, MTV do seem to be trying to fix this, by asking viewers to contact their cable companies, who will then pat response them off the phones. But hey, what can you do? M2 is the bomb, though. I often tape it when I visit my parents (they have a dish). Other friends do the same, and then we bring the tapes home and watch them. :) Jancey Dunn rules, too. Who else can name drop Madder Rose? Probably not that loser Pinfield... speaking of which, is he dead? He hasn't been on 120 Minutes in months, not that I'm complaining.

I haven't been following this thread at all, so i don't know what has been said. I will say that the two times I have watched AMP recently I was bored to tears. I think every single time I have ever watched Amp they play at least one or two Underworld videos. I know alot of electronic artists don't make videos, but playing the same videos all the time doesn't make it worth while staying up for. I think it was two weeks ago, they played three Underworld videos in a row. What the hell? Any of us that have watched Amp from time to time have probably seen those videos WAY too many times. Not to mention three in row! If there was more variety in videos and not so much trance, i would probably tune in more. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

while flipping, i came across the biorythem for the singer of sublime. to the intro when he was a kid, they played Wagon Christ's fly swat. imagine that.

<wells> spat:

quoted 1 line Get over it. MTV is a business,

>Get over it. MTV is a business,

[...] i'm glad someone finally realized that. i don't understand why people are so puzzled by their use of, say, BoC or autechre in their commercials - 10 seconds of something unidentified, different, wack to draw your attention away from your navel and towards their giant, throbbing logo.

quoted 1 line If you owned the station, you'd do the same.

>If you owned the station, you'd do the same.

thanks for telling me. it's good to know that in the reality you create, i'm a raging capitalist whore. i really miss the days when i got muchmusic - sure, it was just like mtv, but it was CANADIAN. and you got to see tudjaat and the hanson brothers occasionally. wahoo, [gr] -- [http://listen.to/treblequake] [eleet fnema] trentonian headline 03/23/99: WHIZ KID'S ROBOT STOLEN _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com

Jeff Pitrman wrote:

quoted 1 line Oh well, who cares about MTV.

> Oh well, who cares about MTV.

my opinion exactly. as long as mtv doesn't start a crusade against the music i like, i don't care. let them do their (stupid?) thing, so can we do our. asdfghjkl, Thomas L.