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Re: (idm) 808/Rebirth

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◇ merged from 2 subjects: (idm) 808/rebirth · (idm) 808/rebirth (was: autechre clones)
1999-03-06 00:56Dr. Smith Re: (idm) 808/Rebirth
1999-03-06 03:39Nick Rejack (idm) 808/Rebirth (Was: Autechre clones)
1999-03-06 09:52Mike Baugh Re: (idm) 808/Rebirth
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1999-03-06 00:56Dr. SmithNick Rejack wrote: > Don't tell me you're trying to say that Rebirth is an accurate emulat
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Sat, 06 Mar 1999 01:56:24 +0100
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Re: (idm) 808/Rebirth
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Nick Rejack wrote:
quoted 2 lines Don't tell me you're trying to say that Rebirth is an accurate emulation of> Don't tell me you're trying to say that Rebirth is an accurate emulation of > the 808.
I had no such intention. I merely meant that the sound has come into the mainstream, and now every wank with a computer has access to it, however stripped down it may be, and can incorporate it into their cookie-cutter-techno "mixes." And that's that. -Andrew -- Propecia: Are you taking enough? http://www.calvin.edu/~asmith89/
1999-03-06 03:39Nick Rejack>Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:37:16 +0100 >From: "Dr. Smith" <asmith89@calvin.edu> >Subject:
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Fri, 5 Mar 1999 22:39:08 -0500
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(idm) 808/Rebirth (Was: Autechre clones)
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quoted 9 lines Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:37:16 +0100>Date: Fri, 05 Mar 1999 16:37:16 +0100 >From: "Dr. Smith" <asmith89@calvin.edu> >Subject: Re: (idm) Autechre "clones" or not! >Che wrote: >> At 09:51 PM 3/4/99 +0100, Dr. Smith wrote: >> >> > I agree that the sounds play an important role, but I believe it has >> more to >do with the track construction itself. The sounds Ae have used >> have varied >tremendously over the years, for instance on "incunabula"
the
quoted 5 lines now cliche TR-808 >("Ye Olde Analogue Drumme Machine") makes several>> now cliche TR-808 >("Ye Olde Analogue Drumme Machine") makes several >> appearances. Now a days, Ae >have moved on, and I'm sure their 808 is >> gathering dust in the corner, and yet, >> >> That was an R8 w/ (I think) the Dance/Rap card. Not very analogue. A
real
quoted 1 line 808 sounds much livelier,>> 808 sounds much livelier,
> Yeah, you're right, someone else mentioned that too. Doh.
quoted 1 line and is never cliched.>> and is never cliched.
> Hmmm, I can't agree with that one. Ever play with ReBirth? > -Andrew Don't tell me you're trying to say that Rebirth is an accurate emulation of the 808. It's no better than the R8 Dance/Rap card. (I can confirm this story BTW. Ae is a big R8 user. It's all over the Anti EP, especially "Flutter") When you twist a knob in Rebirth it merely crossfades between samples. It's not even close to an emulation. Things like the attack and decay envelopes on the bass drums can be easily done in software by clipping the samples, but you're still going to get a static, very digital sound since you're only using samples. nick
1999-03-06 09:52Mike Baughpersonally I think these software synths have a lot of promise. They fail miserably in the
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Sat, 6 Mar 1999 02:52:07 -0700
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Re: (idm) 808/Rebirth
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personally I think these software synths have a lot of promise. They fail miserably in their emulation of old analogue synths, but once you stop trying to make it copy other things you can see the implications, you just need the brains for them...I can't really say anything about Rebirth but Generator is a pretty amazing program with a lot of potential. Especially as CPU speeds increase I think software stuff is going to be where the most innovation happens...I'm sure they're used lots already, I just can't tell exactly on what... cya-------->mIkE