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Marc 3 Poirier wrote:

quoted 23 lines About the only practical application of this audio technology is in the

> > > About the only practical application of this audio technology is in the > > recording and reproduction of classical music. The clarity is so good > > out of an entire symphony orchestra you can individually pick out the > > French horn player sitting in the middle who stopped briefly to pick his > > nose. > > > > As for IDM? 16bit/44.1kHz is fine. > > Aw jeez, this is totally bogus. 16-bit 44.1 kHz is the most bare-ass, > hardly passing standard for digital audio. Okay, maybe not totally because > the 16-bit part is pretty good, but the 44.1 kHz part is atrocious. It > doesn't have to do with whether you call the music you're playing > "classical," it has to do with whether it has treble in it, & most music I > listen to, of all different sorts, does have treble. Once you start > getting into the highest audible frequencies, 44.1 kHz representations of > them sound like shit, harsh & grating shit. Once you get to 22.05 kHz, > this is what any waveform is going to be from a 44.1 kHz audio recording: > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > That's it. Absolutely no detail at all. It gets better the lower you go > from there, but that's why it sounds so bad. > > Marc Poirier

i am not versed in the science of sound, but can humans hear over 20 khz? cl

Excerpts from mail: 15-Feb-99 Re: (idm) 24bit 96kHz format by cl@enteract.com

quoted 2 lines i am not versed in the science of sound, but can

> i am not versed in the science of sound, but can > humans hear over 20 khz?

From what I understand, it's not the sound itself, but the waveform the data is encoded in... digital. Aaron

At 10:26 AM 2/15/99 -0600, cl wrote:

quoted 27 lines Marc 3 Poirier wrote:

>Marc 3 Poirier wrote: >> >> > About the only practical application of this audio technology is in the >> > recording and reproduction of classical music. The clarity is so good >> > out of an entire symphony orchestra you can individually pick out the >> > French horn player sitting in the middle who stopped briefly to pick his >> > nose. >> > >> > As for IDM? 16bit/44.1kHz is fine. >> >> Aw jeez, this is totally bogus. 16-bit 44.1 kHz is the most bare-ass, >> hardly passing standard for digital audio. Okay, maybe not totally because >> the 16-bit part is pretty good, but the 44.1 kHz part is atrocious. It >> doesn't have to do with whether you call the music you're playing >> "classical," it has to do with whether it has treble in it, & most music I >> listen to, of all different sorts, does have treble. Once you start >> getting into the highest audible frequencies, 44.1 kHz representations of >> them sound like shit, harsh & grating shit. Once you get to 22.05 kHz, >> this is what any waveform is going to be from a 44.1 kHz audio recording: >> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ >> That's it. Absolutely no detail at all. It gets better the lower you go >> from there, but that's why it sounds so bad. >> >> Marc Poirier > >i am not versed in the science of sound, but can >humans hear over 20 khz?

Most folks, no, but that's not totally the point of what I was saying. I was more saying that the stuff at & near 20 kHz is of very, very poor quality in digital 44.1 kHz sampled recordings. Marc Poirier

quoted 7 lines About the only practical application of this audio technology is in the

> About the only practical application of this audio technology is in the > recording and reproduction of classical music. The clarity is so good > out of an entire symphony orchestra you can individually pick out the > French horn player sitting in the middle who stopped briefly to pick his > nose. > > As for IDM? 16bit/44.1kHz is fine.

Aw jeez, this is totally bogus. 16-bit 44.1 kHz is the most bare-ass, hardly passing standard for digital audio. Okay, maybe not totally because the 16-bit part is pretty good, but the 44.1 kHz part is atrocious. It doesn't have to do with whether you call the music you're playing "classical," it has to do with whether it has treble in it, & most music I listen to, of all different sorts, does have treble. Once you start getting into the highest audible frequencies, 44.1 kHz representations of them sound like shit, harsh & grating shit. Once you get to 22.05 kHz, this is what any waveform is going to be from a 44.1 kHz audio recording: \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ That's it. Absolutely no detail at all. It gets better the lower you go from there, but that's why it sounds so bad. Marc Poirier

On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Marc 3 Poirier wrote:

quoted 6 lines 44.1 kHz representations of

> 44.1 kHz representations of > them sound like shit, harsh & grating shit. Once you get to 22.05 kHz, > this is what any waveform is going to be from a 44.1 kHz audio recording: > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ > That's it. Absolutely no detail at all. It gets better the lower you go > from there, but that's why it sounds so bad.

I quite enjoy listening to music. Stuart