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quoted 2 lines Wishmountain/Herbert is a little too "out there" for me sometimes.

> >Wishmountain/Herbert is a little too "out there" for me sometimes.

This brings up another question: does Wishmountain = GC? The GC pages lists Wishmountain on the discography, so is it an alias or did they just remix a track? I had a chance to pick up the Rose ep (EV0031) and while side 1 sounds pretty good, side 2 was a little weak. Id pick it up for the sake of GC completion if I knew for sure. TIA ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircaft Systems Fort Worth, Texas

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

quoted 3 lines So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for?

> > So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? >

i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think you can still find it around. also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories and finally... warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: Thoery of Evolution lp/cd happy hunting _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ benny blanco /\ blancodisco: gamefx, inc. /\ /\ http://www.fcl-us.net/~benny/index.html -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

At 04:02 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 13 lines On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: >> So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > >i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think >you can still find it around. > >also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories > >and finally... > >warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > >Thoery of Evolution lp/cd

They've also rereleased the Chapterhouse remixes of Blood Music (Pentamoreous Metamorphasis), an excellent album in the style of 76:14. The Reload disc is a little harder edged than the Link track on AI2, IMHO. There is also the Jedi Knights: New School Science, but thats more electro (think early 80's and "Planet Rock") than anything else. If you like the Antacid track on Theory of Evolution, than you'll probably like the Jedi Knights persona. They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The Deep. I wasn't really impressed with either one, but 76:14 and Pentamoreous Metamorphasis are pretty damn hard to top. -sml

BennyBlanco wrote:

quoted 18 lines On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

> > On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: > > > > So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > > > > i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think > you can still find it around. > > also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories > > and finally... > > warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > > Thoery of Evolution lp/cd > > happy hunting

And let's not forget the mighty mighty Jedi Knights CD 'New School Science'.... come onnnnnn

At 05:07 PM 8/13/98 +0000, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines Shawn said:

>Shawn said: > >>They've also rereleased the Chapterhouse remixes of Blood Music >>(Pentamoreous Metamorphasis), an excellent album in the style of 76:14.

The

quoted 10 lines Reload disc is a little harder edged than the Link track on AI2, IMHO.

>>Reload disc is a little harder edged than the Link track on AI2, IMHO. >>There is also the Jedi Knights: New School Science, but thats more electro >>(think early 80's and "Planet Rock") than anything else. If you like the >>Antacid track on Theory of Evolution, than you'll probably like the Jedi >>Knights persona. > >While we're on the subject, I'd like to bring up "Remotion". Is it GC >remixed by others, or others remixed by GC? And how does it compare to the >rest of the GC stuff? (I liked everything so far, 76:14, JK's NSS, Reload's >COSS, Theory Of Evo, and even their recent house EPs.)

It's others remixed by GC. One track is a Reload track off A Collection of Short Stories remixed by GC, but I can't here any difference (I'll probably check again soon). There also is a jazzy number from Warp 69. I didn't like it that much. The others are excellent. Two other tracks are off the Blood Music remixes. One is off of the Rollercoaster EP from The Grid. The final track is Nav Katze "Wild Horses." This track starts out in a 76:14 vein, quiet and ambient, then moves forward and progresses into a nice groove. If you're quite the GC trainspotter, there isn't much here to be honest. The Nav Katze tracks are taken off of Never Mind The Distortion, a remix disc for Nav Katze that has two Black Dog mixes, two AFX mixes, and two GC/Reload mixes, plus an Ultramarine mix. I'd say Remotion is a good intro disc to GC. I think that they should've put the Palmskin Production remixes on Remotion. Those two tracks, "Evolution of the Beast," are by two favorite mixes by GC. They're quite similar to the track off of AI2. 15 minutes of bliss... Any other GC remixes I've missed out on?

quoted 2 lines And about Evolution/Universal Language, which EPs (GC and non-GC), are

>And about Evolution/Universal Language, which EPs (GC and non-GC), are >musts? (opinions, of course)

Well, I like the Big Ones EP, especially the Modwheel track. Much better than The Way/The Deep IMHO. The Maiden Voyage EPs are pretty good as well. 76:14 was rereleased in Japan doubled with the 2 Maiden Voyage EPs. I've seen a couple copies around. That's about it for me on ULP. Wishmountain/Herbert is a little too "out there" for me sometimes. -sml

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:58:52 GMT mark@sonance.demon.co.uk (Mark Stevens) writes:

quoted 14 lines Hello.

>Hello. > >The recent AI2 discussion reminded me just what a great track Link's >'Arcadian' was. I always intended to seek out more of their stuff but >never got round to doing it. > >So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > > >/\/)ark > >http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/ > >

exactly! i 2nd the motion. i did however buy 76:14 already. it was good but not great. lets just say th@ if i had listened 2 it in the store i would have passed it up. 14:31 was fav track. the Link track on Trance Europe Express 3 ("Avatar") is also really excellent. this is the track (+ the Reload mix of "On") th@ go me rather curious about the duo. i liked the Link track better than the 76:14 tracks. which of Mark & Tom's releases would B best 4 me 2 get, based on the above? tinx, rod "Moon Scepter............Elimination! -Sailor Moon (Serena) "Venus Crescent-beam.......Smash! -Sailor Venus (Mina) "Mars Fire..........................Ignite! -Sailor Mars (Raye) "Jupiter Thunder..................Crash! -Sailor Jupiter (Leeta) "Mercury Bubbles...............Blast! -Sailor Mercury (Amy) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:02:13 -0400 (EDT) BennyBlanco <benny@fcl-us.net> writes:

quoted 10 lines On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

> > >On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: >> >> So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? >> > >i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i >think >you can still find it around.

i think this was reissued in 97. PJ has some. (modernmusic2@earthlink.net)

quoted 1 line also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories

>also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories

i saw this in Tower Records, San Fran. its easy 2 find or order.

quoted 7 lines and finally...

>and finally... > >warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > >Thoery of Evolution lp/cd > >

U can get this on TVT Records. again, easy order. "Moon Scepter............Elimination! -Sailor Moon (Serena) "Venus Crescent-beam.......Smash! -Sailor Venus (Mina) "Mars Fire..........................Ignite! -Sailor Mars (Raye) "Jupiter Thunder..................Crash! -Sailor Jupiter (Leeta) "Mercury Bubbles...............Blast! -Sailor Mercury (Amy) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

On Thu, 13 Aug 1998 16:51:12 +0000 Ernesto Ikerd <IkerdEA@lmtas.lmco.com> writes:

quoted 10 lines Wishmountain/Herbert is a little too "out there" for me sometimes.

>> >>Wishmountain/Herbert is a little too "out there" for me sometimes. >This brings up another question: does Wishmountain = GC? > >The GC pages lists Wishmountain on the discography, so is it an alias >or >did they just remix a track? I had a chance to pick up the Rose ep >(EV0031) and while side 1 sounds pretty good, side 2 was a little >weak. >Id pick it up for the sake of GC completion if I knew for sure.

they must have, b-cause Wishmountain/Herbert = Dr. Rocket. this is his name on evolution as far as i know. "Moon Scepter............Elimination! -Sailor Moon (Serena) "Venus Crescent-beam.......Smash! -Sailor Venus (Mina) "Mars Fire..........................Ignite! -Sailor Mars (Raye) "Jupiter Thunder..................Crash! -Sailor Jupiter (Leeta) "Mercury Bubbles...............Blast! -Sailor Mercury (Amy) _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

while we're at it, don't forget the Maiden Voyage CDsingles or how about that ONE sided 10". Other side had morse code on it! Wish I had that 10" -- -gilly ........ºprotest protestersº.............

What!? No Pentamerous...? BennyBlanco wrote:

quoted 21 lines On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

> On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: > > > > So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > > > > i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think > you can still find it around. > > also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories > > and finally... > > warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > > Thoery of Evolution lp/cd > > happy hunting > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > benny blanco /\ blancodisco: > gamefx, inc. /\ /\ http://www.fcl-us.net/~benny/index.html > -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-

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At 04:02 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote:

quoted 13 lines On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote:

>On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: >> So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > >i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think >you can still find it around. > >also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories > >and finally... > >warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > >Thoery of Evolution lp/cd

They've also rereleased the Chapterhouse remixes of Blood Music (Pentamoreous Metamorphasis), an excellent album in the style of 76:14. The Reload disc is a little harder edged than the Link track on AI2, IMHO. There is also the Jedi Knights: New School Science, but thats more electro (think early 80's and "Planet Rock") than anything else. If you like the Antacid track on Theory of Evolution, than you'll probably like the Jedi Knights persona. They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The Deep. I wasn't really impressed with either one, but 76:14 and Pentamoreous Metamorphasis are pretty damn hard to top. -sml

Excerpts from mail: 10-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by Shawn Ledbetter@baynetwo

quoted 3 lines They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The

> They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The > Deep. I wasn't really impressed with either one, but 76:14 and Pentamoreous > Metamorphasis are pretty damn hard to top.

Depends on your tastes. If you like groovy deep house, they're absolute necessities. Similar sounding to the two Secret Ingredients 12"'s on Evolution (same guys). These guys blow my mind over the fact that they record tracks in virtually any genre. Hard jungle tracks (Chaos & Julia Set) house (Secret Ingredients, Global Communication) lush ambient (Pulusha/Global Communication), and other genres... IDM, Detroit techno, funk, jazz... Phew! Aaron

yes, absolutely, they're super talented. i still remember fondly the first time i heard reload at high volume. wow! it was at a party and the dj on before me (a room mate) played it. i was at the juicebar at the time and ran up to her and said "holy shit, what is this?" and she said, "Andrew, you *know* this, this is that reload i'm always playing" and it was at that point where it really hit home, through a quality soundsystem, and loud, that i really "heard" them. Andrew :) PS this still blows the door off most of the music from that time (u ziq era tango and vectif is up there as well) and plenty since. Aaron S Michelson wrote:

quoted 18 lines Excerpts from mail: 10-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by Shawn

> Excerpts from mail: 10-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by Shawn > Ledbetter@baynetwo > > They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The > > Deep. I wasn't really impressed with either one, but 76:14 and Pentamoreous > > Metamorphasis are pretty damn hard to top. > > Depends on your tastes. If you like groovy deep house, they're absolute > necessities. Similar sounding to the two Secret Ingredients 12"'s on > Evolution (same guys). > > These guys blow my mind over the fact that they record tracks in > virtually any genre. Hard jungle tracks (Chaos & Julia Set) house > (Secret Ingredients, Global Communication) lush ambient (Pulusha/Global > Communication), and other genres... IDM, Detroit techno, funk, jazz... > > Phew! > > Aaron

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There's also the odd Chaos and Julia Set and Chameleon tracks you'll see now and then on compilations. I think the old "Maiden Voyage" singles are still out there, too. jeff Shawn Ledbetter wrote:

quoted 28 lines At 04:02 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote:

> At 04:02 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote: > >On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Mark Stevens wrote: > >> So, what should a Global Communications virgin be listening out for? > > > >i suppose 76:14 lp/cd to start. it's out of print i believe, but i think > >you can still find it around. > > > >also, look for ..... RELOAD : a collection of short stories > > > >and finally... > > > >warp's all inclusive comp of the universal language boys: > > > >Thoery of Evolution lp/cd > > They've also rereleased the Chapterhouse remixes of Blood Music > (Pentamoreous Metamorphasis), an excellent album in the style of 76:14. The > Reload disc is a little harder edged than the Link track on AI2, IMHO. > There is also the Jedi Knights: New School Science, but thats more electro > (think early 80's and "Planet Rock") than anything else. If you like the > Antacid track on Theory of Evolution, than you'll probably like the Jedi > Knights persona. > > They also recently released a couple of singles, The Groove, and The Way/The > Deep. I wasn't really impressed with either one, but 76:14 and Pentamoreous > Metamorphasis are pretty damn hard to top. > > -sml

-- jeff ...Great times and noodle salad. dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008

Speaking of... I have the Link Symbiotic EP. Is that particularly rare? It came highly suggested and so I picked it up. It IS really fantastic. I'd never heard of it before, but I don't follow GC that closely. I just wasn't sure if it was something highly sought after or what. -rbc3

These guys blow my mind over the fact that they record tracks in virtually any genre. Hard jungle tracks (Chaos & Julia Set) house (Secret Ingredients, Global Communication) lush ambient (Pulusha/Global Communication), [] you can't forget their last release for Droppin' Science "Mojo Women" as Use of Weapons. Absolutely essential musical drum'n'bass built for the dancefloor.... mikebee

virtually any genre?....hmmm Mikebee wrote:

quoted 9 lines These guys blow my mind over the fact that they record tracks in

> These guys blow my mind over the fact that they record tracks in > virtually any genre. Hard jungle tracks (Chaos & Julia Set) house > (Secret Ingredients, Global Communication) lush ambient (Pulusha/Global > Communication), > [] you can't forget their last release for Droppin' Science "Mojo Women" > as Use of Weapons. Absolutely essential musical drum'n'bass built for the > dancefloor.... > > mikebee

Excerpts from mail: 11-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by martin wood@advent-comm.

quoted 1 line virtually any genre?....hmmm

> virtually any genre?....hmmm

Well, I've yet to hear them excrete any extreme noise/terror stuff (a la Merzbow) from their studio. However when they do, then I can say they'll have produced everything. techno/hiphop/jungle/breakbeat/acid/trance/house/ambient.... Aaron

On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Aaron S Michelson wrote: | Excerpts from mail: 11-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by martin | wood@advent-comm. | > virtually any genre?....hmmm | Well, I've yet to hear them excrete any | extreme noise/terror stuff (a la Merzbow) from | their studio. However when they do, then I can | say they'll have produced everything. | techno/hiphop/jungle/breakbeat/acid/trance/house/ambient.... Well, they've never done the noisy thing, or incorporated noise and distortion into anything they've done. There are many, many takes and nuances in those directions they haven't touched. For people purportedly exploring every genre (of dance) they still have a very distinct slant on what they do, and my impression is their approach to tracks is much of a muchness. I guess the incorporation of live instruments recently is a change in that. Stil, my impression is that if you substitute rhythm sections (and tempos) between the various styles, the actual music is often pretty interchangeable. NB. _often_, I'm not saying that's always the case. Michael ____________________________________________ "His eyes are TV cameras" http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html

I don't think anyone has mentioned the remix collection "remotion". Came out in '95 on Dedicated (like 76:14, and Pentamerous...). I'm not sure if it's still available but it's of the same ilk as the more ambient (ie. mostly beatless) stuff on 76:14. Very much worth your while if you dig GC. @nd. np - Compost 50 (a very solid compilation)

On Wed, 10 Feb 1999 20:51:41 -0800 "~\(\({\[Endemic~Distortion\]}\)\)~" <jpklein@flash.net> writes:

quoted 5 lines There's also the odd Chaos and Julia Set and Chameleon tracks you'll

>There's also the odd Chaos and Julia Set and Chameleon tracks you'll >see now and >then on compilations. I think the old "Maiden Voyage" singles are >still out >there, too.

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Although I wouldn't call it noise, sometimes the Reload mixes get crunchy and the beats have a touch of distortion to them. jeff Michael Upton wrote:

quoted 36 lines On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Aaron S Michelson wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Aaron S Michelson wrote: > > | Excerpts from mail: 11-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by martin > | wood@advent-comm. > | > virtually any genre?....hmmm > > | Well, I've yet to hear them excrete any > | extreme noise/terror stuff (a la Merzbow) from > | their studio. However when they do, then I can > | say they'll have produced everything. > > | techno/hiphop/jungle/breakbeat/acid/trance/house/ambient.... > > Well, they've never done the noisy thing, or > incorporated noise and distortion into anything > they've done. There are many, many takes and > nuances in those directions they haven't touched. > > For people purportedly exploring every genre (of > dance) they still have a very distinct slant on > what they do, and my impression is their approach > to tracks is much of a muchness. I guess the > incorporation of live instruments recently is a > change in that. > > Stil, my impression is that if you substitute > rhythm sections (and tempos) between the various > styles, the actual music is often pretty > interchangeable. NB. _often_, I'm not saying > that's always the case. > > Michael > > ____________________________________________ > "His eyes are TV cameras" > http://www.vuw.ac.nz/~michael/jj.html

-- jeff ...Great times and noodle salad. dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008

At 03:20 PM 2/12/99 +1300, Michael Upton wrote:

quoted 5 lines Stil, my impression is that if you substitute

>Stil, my impression is that if you substitute >rhythm sections (and tempos) between the various >styles, the actual music is often pretty >interchangeable. NB. _often_, I'm not saying >that's always the case.

This might be true in the case of a few Global Communication, Reload, and Link tracks (where there's a bit of genre overlap anyway), but overall it's not true. The emotions evoked tend to change w/ the name, and this is a function of music. Compare the version of "Natural High" by Global Communication w/ the version by Chaos & Julia Set. The former is dreamy, the latter is sinister and paranoic. Even though they share a chord progression, the supporting music is wildly different. Also, their Deep House tracks tend to be less dense and structurally simpler than their other work. Here's a (partial) mapping of Moods & Genres to Names: Name Mood Genre GlobComm Dreamy Ambient GlobComm Upbeat House Secret Ingredients Upbeat Deep House New York/New York Upbeat Deep House Reload Sinister Techno Reload Thoughtful Soundtrack Pelusha Dreamy Beatless Ambient Link Thoughtful Techno Chaos & Julia Set Sinister Drum&Bass Chameleon Dreamy Drum&Bass Jedi Knights Upbeat PseudoFunk/Big Beat This is, of course, not absolute, just a generalization, as there are overlaps between their various recording personnae. I'm trying to capture the overall feel here. Reload has done dreamy techno (On Remix, Le Soleil Et La Mer), GlobComm has done dreamy trip hop (Funk In The Fridge, Natural High), and Jedi Knights have done dreamy techno (Science Friction was originally a Link/E621 track, and The Truth, Human Blancmange, Solina Ascension, and Afterlife sound more like Link than they do the other JK tracks). I think that most of the genre overlap is attributable to contractual obligations. I think the underlying link between all of Mark & Tom's work is that they seek to make music with a high emotional content. In that they rarely fail. And I hope that their virtual silence in '98 will be followed by a creative explosion in '99. Che

Excerpts from mail: 16-Feb-99 Re: (idm) Global Communicat.. by Che@synthcom.com

quoted 1 line Jedi Knights Upbeat PseudoFunk/Big Beat

> Jedi Knights Upbeat PseudoFunk/Big Beat

Also downright sinister as evidence in their Depeche Mode remix of 'Home.' Along the lines of the Chaos & Julia Set jungle tracks... only a little less frantic on the snares... Aaron