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quoted 2 lines I mean, how much drum and bass/breakbeat/big beat can you listen to

> I mean, how much drum and bass/breakbeat/big beat can you listen to > before it loses it's novelty? And who's doing music in the tradition the

ruminations regarding this thread: d&b does move quickly, and there are way more copyists than there should be (e.g. everyone using a 2step break and farty optical-ish keyboard sounds), but it's a genre that is constantly being mined for inspiration (to put it diplomatically) by everone from ad agencies and pop stars to r&b artists & of course, the almighty Twin (and several of his cronies) --> if the d&b in itself is all these things, how is it that the genre of itself exercises such a powerful influence? this whole thread reminds me of a conversation i once overheard down at my local between two snivelling "drill and bass" heads. "drum and bass has no soul, straight out of the box sounds, same breaks being used over and over etc" --> which artists exactly are you (collectively and/or individually) referring to when you speak of drum&bass being stale, unoriginal and just generally played out? there's shit and gold in any genre and drum and bass is no exception, but it seems that it's being help to a higher standard by people who don't really like it in the first place. and further, why is it that producer's will on record state that jungle is alomst uniformly shit and then jock the most obvious and cliched techniques of them all. dig through your crates of sanctified idm vinyl and you'll no doubt find pitched and stretched amensand apaches, snare rolls and such used by artists claiming to "expand the limitations of the genre" i'm just curious why idm _seems_ to give up so little respect to jungle. just wondering, carl (the fat guy from family matters) ob: first jungle: a tape made by a friend that had urban style music by lemon d, finley's rainbow by agcg, early reinforced, and sea of tears by goldie (anyone else know and dig this tune??) still have that tape... . first idm: has to be what's going on by marvin gaye: flanged snares, deep strings, hi-concept, multitracking. but it does have vocals though... . first ambient: zoviet fr, nocturnal emissions, and a forgotten little band called "zone"