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1998-06-13 16:10laerm (idm) braindance and silliness
└─ 1998-06-14 03:00Greg Clow Re: (idm) braindance and silliness
└─ 1998-06-15 22:57GamePrg. Re: (idm) braindance and silliness
1998-06-14 03:45Gonzi Merchan Re: (idm) braindance and silliness
└─ 1998-06-14 20:41Solenoid (idm) Chaos AD and DMX Krew(breakin')
└─ 1998-06-15 00:20Chaircrusher Re: (idm) Chaos AD and DMX Krew(breakin')
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1998-06-13 16:10laermso, i see one of the first releases in this braindance gig is something by some dude named
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so, i see one of the first releases in this braindance gig is something by some dude named jason buckle. what can we expect from said dude? * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com #### "I think every good Christian oughta kick Falwell's ass." -the late Sen. Barry Goldwater, R-Az, responding to Jerry Falwell's suggestion that every good Christian protest Sandra Day O'Connor's Supreme Court nomination.
1998-06-14 03:00Greg ClowOn Sat, 13 Jun 1998, laerm wrote: > so, i see one of the first releases in this braindance
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, laerm wrote:
quoted 2 lines so, i see one of the first releases in this braindance gig is something by> so, i see one of the first releases in this braindance gig is something by > some dude named jason buckle. what can we expect from said dude?
It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If the album is anything like that, expect fairly average Squarepusher-like drill'n'bass stuff. Greg
1998-06-15 22:57GamePrg.On Sunday, 14-Jun-98, Greg Clow wrote [about Re: (idm) braindance and silliness]: >It's th
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On Sunday, 14-Jun-98, Greg Clow wrote [about Re: (idm) braindance and silliness]:
quoted 3 lines It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If>It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If >the album is anything like that, expect fairly average Squarepusher-like >drill'n'bass stuff.
If it's anything like that expect some fairly shitty tracks, ala µ-Ziq's Urmur Bile Trax (at least IMO it sounds more like Urmur Bile than Squarepusher, which actually was a bit better than the total sqrepshr ripoff that Mike P. is doing now) __ __\ \ / /_\ \ 1cQ<->uIN \_____/ 1.3777993 "..in whatever you do, if you can't break new ground, what's the point?" - James Cameron
1998-06-14 03:45Gonzi Merchan> It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If > the album is
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quoted 3 lines It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If> It's the same guy who did a single as Rubber Johnny on Warp last year. If > the album is anything like that, expect fairly average Squarepusher-like > drill'n'bass stuff.
Hmm, it's nothing like that really. More of the classic Rephlex sound in effect. Sort of like the goon? Not really though. Maybe closer to a cross between goon and chaos ad. Braindance indeed. 15/6 Railway Raver "Drop Acid Not Bombs" (first 1000 with limited 7") 22/6 Jason Buckle "Flying Lo-Fi" (28 tracks from Warp's Rubber Jonny & All Seeing I fame) 06/7 Leila "Feeling" see-ya, gonzi.
1998-06-14 20:41SolenoidOn Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Gonzi Merchan wrote: > Hmm, it's nothing like that really. More of th
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On Sat, 13 Jun 1998, Gonzi Merchan wrote:
quoted 3 lines Hmm, it's nothing like that really. More of the classic Rephlex sound in> Hmm, it's nothing like that really. More of the classic Rephlex sound in > effect. Sort of like the goon? Not really though. Maybe closer to a > cross between goon and chaos ad. Braindance indeed.
Is "Braindance" just Rephlex's game to play with the media by seeing this term sink into the music zines until they have a collection of mainstream articles with the term such that they can LOL over beers? The term is a little silly when you visualize it, but that is probably good, as IDM should avoid getting the serious stigma that plagued intelligent prog-rock in the 70's. Rephlex should make an anthropomorphic "Mr Brain" brain character with skinny little legs and a hat as their new logo then. I listenned to this Chaos AD and it sounds like early Squarepusher programming some x0x-boxes and sorting thru other-than-16-step patterns thru a dry mix. Not bad, but it really should hit vinyl in '93 or so, whenever that cardboard Rephlex record came out with the paper in it that says "RIP 909, blah blah bullocks" The Chaos AD has 707 and 606 on the blurry cover, but there is also some dry non-16/4/4 303 squirming through the bulk of it. No wonder he started using a Boss drum machine, since it totally sounds like he is trying to get a finer resolution of notes (32nd and triplets) outta the crude x0xboxes...If you think of those sequencers is training wheels to some degree (yeah, use them, so sue me), Tom J just plain doesn't need them. I'd recommend old Djax records, etc if you want some syncopated 303. DMX Krew on Breakin' Records: (not sure how old this record is) I just listenned to this at the store, but didn't buy it, so this ain't a qualified review... Side Two is a megamix (using a sampler or computer editor of some kind clearly) of various electro, early Dynamix, and some of the new Mandroid LP (which the back label says is coming out soon, so this record must be 6 or more months old) Side one has a very tightly-constructed electro groove that pounds very very nicely and has those extra bass drums that make it mixable with dancefloor techno. This track is so Dynamix-inspired it almost isn't funny. But yes, it IS funny. The Dynamix styled samples-in-between-the-beats is taken a little farther (samplers hold more than they did back then, so it figures) and there are lots of partial sentences before the lo-res "BASS!" sample kicks in. Whereas Dynamix just says "Who are you?".."I'm the <BASS!>...", DMX Krew inserts every other sentence imaginable that could go before "BASS!". They forgot a few, however, and I thought I'd recommend some: (o shit here it comes...) ------<sig fodder>------- "Daddy sang <BASS!>, mama sang tenor; me and little brother would join right in there..." (Johnny Cash sample) (alternately, you could replace "brother" with the "machine", from "I'm a machine!") "I went fishing in the Seine... and all I caught was <BASS!>" (vocoded in monotone) (replace "Seine" with "Nile" if you want to mix into Eg Lover) "Cleanin' out the <freaky!> <BASS!>-ment" (vocoded, alternately add the "I'm a machine, I'm a machine!" with a washing-machine sample underneath.) ------------- Seriously though, is DMX Krew just cashing in on Dynamix's music because they know these exact miami-electro-bass gems are going to be released on Rephlex soon? Everybody better rush out and sample it, chop-chop! Maybe I don't recognize that they are samples, but the A-side's beat is powerful stuff and they could (should?) have just released this as a minimal track, seems like...I might have actually bought it then... "just call me droid", Solenoid solenoid@europa.com <------+
1998-06-15 00:20ChaircrusherOn Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Solenoid wrote: > > I listenned to this Chaos AD and it sounds like e
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On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Solenoid wrote:
quoted 4 lines I listenned to this Chaos AD and it sounds like early Squarepusher> > I listenned to this Chaos AD and it sounds like early Squarepusher > programming some x0x-boxes and sorting thru other-than-16-step patterns > thru a dry mix.
Err a couple of tracks are like that. The third track -- the one with the 303 and 4x4 house beat sounded to me like he did the whole track in Rebirth, and mastered it to cassette with the inputs overloaded.