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quoted 8 lines intricacy is exemplified with clattering synth (sounding like the

>>> intricacy is exemplified with clattering synth (sounding like the >>> notes are bouncing with declining momentum as used by Aphex on >>> Bucephalus Bouncing Ball - must be some new clever software trick or >>> something) building a framework of sound amidst which a new line >> >>this momentum thing is not a new software trick as far as i know.. >>autechre have been doing that kind of thing for as long as i can >>remember and it is not hard to enter the drums/static like ... . . .

I first heard it on an Eddie Jobson (Roxy Music, UK) album in the mid-80's, but I wouldn't be surprised if some clown didn't program it into the RCA Music Synthesizer in the early 60's... Che

On 05/19/98 17:12:49 you wrote:

quoted 10 lines intricacy is exemplified with clattering synth (sounding like the

> >> intricacy is exemplified with clattering synth (sounding like the >> notes are bouncing with declining momentum as used by Aphex on >> Bucephalus Bouncing Ball - must be some new clever software trick or >> something) building a framework of sound amidst which a new line > >this momentum thing is not a new software trick as far as i know.. >autechre have been doing that kind of thing for as long as i can >remember and it is not hard to enter the drums/static like ... . . . > . . .

it's an easy trick which can be done with a drum machine (at least a roland/boss one) and a computer sequencer. both autechre and aphex twin used fast rolls in earlier tracks, just not to the extent that they do now. "a dream is worth a thousand pictures, the mouths of lampreys a thousand more..."

In message <199851921462136334@ix.netcom.com>, thatcat@ix.netcom.com writes

quoted 15 lines On 05/19/98 17:12:49 you wrote:

>On 05/19/98 17:12:49 you wrote: >> >>> intricacy is exemplified with clattering synth (sounding like the >>> notes are bouncing with declining momentum as used by Aphex on >>> Bucephalus Bouncing Ball - must be some new clever software trick or >>> something) building a framework of sound amidst which a new line >> >>this momentum thing is not a new software trick as far as i know.. >>autechre have been doing that kind of thing for as long as i can >>remember and it is not hard to enter the drums/static like ... . . . >> . . . > >it's an easy trick which can be done with a drum machine (at least a roland/boss >one) and a computer sequencer. both autechre and aphex twin used fast rolls in >earlier tracks, just not to the extent that they do now.

This has been discussed before (when aphex's bucephalus track came out), but i'll say again, it's even *easier* than this. Just get an SE-70 digital effects processor, any sound you put into it on a certain preset effect does this *exact* bouncing thing... -- Ben Coffer http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

quoted 3 lines this momentum thing is not a new software trick as far as i know..

>>this momentum thing is not a new software trick as far as i know.. >>autechre have been doing that kind of thing for as long as i can >>remember and it is not hard to enter the drums/static like ... . .

quoted 4 lines it's an easy trick which can be done with a drum machine (at least a

>it's an easy trick which can be done with a drum machine (at least a >roland/boss one) and a computer sequencer. both autechre and aphex >twin used fast rolls in earlier tracks, just not to the extent that >they do now.

I'm not convinced either of you quite realise the effect I'm trying to describe but it doesn't matter (it's just that the effect as I percveived it has not been used by Ae before with the possible exception of Krib off Cichli Suite with that effect I read people describe as marbles clanging together in your hand but I would equate it more with that noise when you pick up 2 heavy bottomed glasses off the table and they clang against each other with increasing frequency until they're still). But as I say, it really doesn't matter.