quoted 1 line You're mad, "Bluff Limbo" is the dog's bollocks
>You're mad, "Bluff Limbo" is the dog's bollocksquoted 6 lines Orbital's Brown Album (for me) is their
>> Orbital's Brown Album (for me) is their
>> crowning glory, but I think it differs for people depending on which LP
>> they first heard by them (or Mike P). Once you have heard 'their sound'
>> (Orbital, Mike P and others) any subsequent LPs that do not stray
>> massively from the formula tend to sound so very tired and staid, and
>> you always want to turn them off before they reach their conclusion.quoted 2 lines Don't agree at all, I enjoy "In Pine Effect" and "Lunatic Harness"
>Don't agree at all, I enjoy "In Pine Effect" and "Lunatic Harness" quite a bit
>and I liked a fair bit of "Makesaracquet"quoted 4 lines Autechre rarely have me doing this, but I can't really say for sure why
>> Autechre rarely have me doing this, but I can't really say for sure why
>> this is, because their 'sound' hasn't progressed that much further than
>> these artists (although the progression in each LP is distinctly
>> audiable).quoted 3 lines Don't agree again, I think "Tri Repetae" is as much a leap forward for Ae
>Don't agree again, I think "Tri Repetae" is as much a leap forward for Ae
>over the first 2 albums as, say, Talking Heads' "Fear of Music" was a leap
>forward from their first two (People Under 30 Not Expected To Understand This)quoted 13 lines This is quite an odd opinion you have. AFX is my favorite because I find
>>> This is quite an odd opinion you have. AFX is my favorite because I find
>>> his music so emotional. Listen to pancake lizard, hedphelym. If you have
>>> I care, though, and can't feel it, we must have two very different
>>> psychologies.
>>
>> My opinion on all this is probably somewhere inbetween. I Care Because
>> You Do doesn't work for me as an album, but some of the tracks on it -
>> the first couple, Alberto Balsalm and a few others - are excellent. I
>> think the problem here is the way he uses old and new tracks together on
>> one LP. Come On You Slags and Start As You Mean To Go On are decent
>> enough clanging Techno things but don't (IMO) belong on this LP. They
>> are too old and seem stuck in his 'old' (and to me, fairly boring) ravey
>> hardcore-Techno sound of the Digeridoo/Classics era.quoted 2 lines "Fairly boring"? You must not have that historical context, that's the
>"Fairly boring"? You must not have that historical context, that's the
>stuff that defined him as being apart from the rest at the time ...quoted 1 line I don't know what you were listening to in '91-'92
>I don't know what you were listening to in '91-'92 quoted 3 lines but this stuff was
>but this stuff was
>just so far ahead of the field (at least, what I was exposed to at the time;
>still not heard e.g. Plaid's "Mbuki Mvuki") quoted 1 line it wasn't even funny
>it wasn't even funnyquoted 3 lines And as far as I'm concerned "Start As You Mean To Go On" blows the rest int
>And as far as I'm concerned "Start As You Mean To Go On" blows the rest into
>the weeds, although I'm in the minority I'm sure (I don't belong to the
>"Alberto Balsalm is total godhead" posse).quoted 16 lines The exact examples you 2 bring up: Orbital, Goldie - these are 2 examples
>>> The exact examples you 2 bring up: Orbital, Goldie - these are 2 examples
>>> I'd use to typify soulless music.
>>
>> Nothing but agreement here too. Same for the No U-Turn posse. People on
>> this list have been praising the Torque compilation over what they've
>> heard of Roni Size's output (probably just New Forms, which is a shame
>> as the man and the Reprazent crew have done so much more). I think
>> Roni's output has been nothing if not versatile. His music is fairly
>> typical of Jungle in its sub-genres, but he innovates in each one, and
>> every track he makes does not sound the same. He does a wide variety of
>> styles extremely well, and I think this is his strong point, whereas No
>> U-Turn just give people one sound to latch on to, and a very very very
>> formulaic one at that (although some tracks are absolutely wicked -
>> Technology and the remix, and that thing off prototype years called
>> Locust). Torque as an album I think it is absolutely unremittingly
>> boring. I heard the mix CD and after 45 minutes I just wanted to die.quoted 3 lines I agree that there's a definable sound to No U-Turn but there's enough
>I agree that there's a definable sound to No U-Turn but there's enough
>variation in "Torque" that it never bores me, maybe because I think it's
>all wicked ...quoted 3 lines This is probably the desired effect, but I have never much cared
>> This is probably the desired effect, but I have never much cared
>> for music that tries to pummel you into submission just for the sake of
>> it (inc. Industrial stuff).quoted 2 lines This explains a lot, I call it "intensity", you call it "pummel into
>This explains a lot, I call it "intensity", you call it "pummel into
>submission"quoted 4 lines Yeah, exactly. This is what sums up what I was saying about the RDJ
>> Yeah, exactly. This is what sums up what I was saying about the RDJ
>> album. It's wicked because the music is almost entirely his own. If
>> you've heard a sound before it does tend to detract from the
>> soul/emotion or whatever you want to call it, of the music.quoted 2 lines Point one, if you don't think parts of "Richard D. James" are unquestionabl
>Point one, if you don't think parts of "Richard D. James" are unquestionably
>identifiably RDJ (i.e. "you've heard a sound before") then I disagree; quoted 3 lines point two, how often can you honestly say that you've heard a completely original
>point two, how often can you honestly say that you've heard a completely original
>album, things like "Tango N' Vectif" or "A Collection of Short Stories" or
>(to a lesser extent) "Public Energy #1" don't get released every day.quoted 2 lines Um, bit of a rambler this post. Hope anyone who read it managed to get
>> Um, bit of a rambler this post. Hope anyone who read it managed to get
>> some sense out of it ...quoted 2 lines You rate the "RDJ" album, and prefer Roni Size over No U-Turn. Says it all
>You rate the "RDJ" album, and prefer Roni Size over No U-Turn. Says it all
>for me really ...