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quoted 1 line "Bucephalus Bouncing Ball". Kind of gimmicky what with the bouncing

> "Bucephalus Bouncing Ball". Kind of gimmicky what with the bouncing

ball-like

quoted 1 line effects. Mostly a rhythmic exercise with a bit of wobbly synth

> effects. Mostly a rhythmic exercise with a bit of wobbly synth

melody tacked on.

quoted 1 line Autechre used a ball-like sound to much better effect on

> Autechre used a ball-like sound to much better effect on

"Cichlisuite". Sounds a lot

quoted 1 line like that "Spotlight" remix on the Wagon Christ 'Redone EP'.

> like that "Spotlight" remix on the Wagon Christ 'Redone EP'.

if i remember rightly (ive only listened to cichlisuite the once in a shop) it sounded like two wine glasses being knocked together on the Autechre record.... i thought that was a good sample.... unfortunately one good sample doesnt make a good record....If someone could of played me Cichlisuite minutes after first hearing Incunabula circa 1992 id of probably replied.... yeah sounds quite nice... but not much of a progression is it?.... nuff said. Steve /k/./F/ p.s. apparently Come To Daddy (mummy mix) went down a treat when the Spymania boys played it in Vienna...

quoted 10 lines If someone could of played

> > If someone could of played > > me Cichlisuite minutes after first hearing Incunabula circa 1992 id > of > > probably replied.... yeah sounds quite nice... but not much of a > > progression is it?.... > > Interesting that you think so. I believe that autechre have > progressed > immensly over the years, though they have continued to exploit music > within some rather small boundries.

id first like to point out that IMO Autechre are good at what they do... i dont simply detest them like for example Orbital... Chiastic Slide is undeniably a progression from Incunabula.... albeit not a huge one.. however i think Cichlisuite sounds very lazy compared to the recent album.... it sounds as if they 'banged it out' without much emotion or thought... ..i cant be the only one who thinks this?.. Steve /k/./F/

On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, .... wrote:

quoted 3 lines id first like to point out that IMO Autechre are good at what they do...

> id first like to point out that IMO Autechre are good at what they do... > > i dont simply detest them like for example Orbital...

Why do you detest Orbital? -Michael

quoted 3 lines i dont simply detest them like for example Orbital...

> > i dont simply detest them like for example Orbital... > > Why do you detest Orbital?

Thats a good question... i dont really know.... you know when you hear something like Boyz II Men.. and theyll harmonise in a certain way and it makes your whole body shake and nauseate.... its kinda like that...prime example 'The Saint'.... its enough to lose your faith in Techno.. ..normally pop acts like Take That, New kids and Spice girls only last 2-3 years if theyre lucky.... ..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?... Steve /k/./F/

quoted 5 lines Thats a good question... i dont really know.... you know when you hear

> Thats a good question... i dont really know.... you know when you hear > something like Boyz II Men.. and theyll harmonise in a certain way > and it makes your whole body shake and nauseate.... its kinda like > that...prime example 'The Saint'.... its enough to lose your faith in > Techno..

Geez... I may slag on Orbital now and then, but I don't think they're _that_ bad. I'd think this analogy would be more appropriate for describing the posturing seen by the latest Prodigy, Chem Bros, and all the crap excuse for dance music I force myself to wake up to every morning on "THE NEW KTU 103.5" because it makes me pull my lazy ass outta bed to go turn the bloody radio OFF.

quoted 1 line ..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?...

> ..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?...

I dunno... perhaps lost in a timewarp? They've only been doing stuff for the last 7 or 8 at most by my count. -- jr

At 21:28 16/10/97 +0100, .... wrote:

quoted 5 lines Why do you detest Orbital?

>> Why do you detest Orbital? > >Thats a good question... i dont really know.... you know when you hear >something like Boyz II Men.. and theyll harmonise in a certain way >and it makes your whole body shake and nauseate....

Merely the mention of their name does that....

quoted 2 lines its kinda like that...prime example 'The Saint'....

>its kinda like that...prime example 'The Saint'.... >its enough to lose your faith in Techno..

Well I love Orbital but would say without any hesitation that 'The Saint' is their worst work. Have you heard the b-side, though, 'The Sinner'. Now that's more like it. I think they've got sick of years of relatively little recognition outside of their own sphere so they now want to become well known.

quoted 3 lines ..normally pop acts like Take That, New kids and Spice girls only last

>..normally pop acts like Take That, New kids and Spice girls only last >2-3 years if theyre lucky.... >..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?...

I can't see how Orbital could be described as a pop act before 'The Saint'. Any tracks in particular that you'd call pop (other than 'The Saint')? Jon np: Funk D'Void 'Kincho' - Jon Green zcapn33@ucl.ac.uk They're back: "F**k the Millenium" see http://www.2k.org.uk

Guy Elden wrote:

quoted 4 lines ..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?...

> > ..how come Orbital have tortured me for ten years now?... > > I dunno... perhaps lost in a timewarp? They've only been doing stuff for the > last 7 or 8 at most by my count.

Talking of time warps.... I just discovered an old tape of "The House Sound of London" here in my filing cabinet. Anyone interested in hearing the two Hartnoll tracks off that album tune in to the URL below. See if you can spot the one or two samples that they re-cycled for their green (or is it yellow) album. :-) -- Q-Force qforce@holon.net http://www.holon.net/qforce/

Q-Force wrote:

quoted 3 lines Talking of time warps.... I just discovered an old tape of "The House

> Talking of time warps.... I just discovered an old tape of "The House > Sound of London" here in my filing cabinet. Anyone interested in > hearing the two Hartnoll tracks off that album tune in to the URL below.

Okay, they're up. Here's a direct link to the audio: http://www.holon.net/qforce/hartnoll.ram -- Q-Force qforce@holon.net http://www.holon.net/qforce/