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1997-01-14 05:59flying turnip boyis there anyone out there (in the US preferably) who can find a copy of GAK for me on CD?

From:: flying turnip boy <KKWGBZA@grove.iup.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:59:49 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: (idm) looking for stuff

is there anyone out there (in the US preferably) who can find a copy of GAK for me on CD? i'm also looking for the US version of the On EP. any help would be super appreciated. thanks a lot! alan! ps i just remembered, if you can find autechre's anti EP on disc, that'd be swell too. thanks! __ :::::/\ \:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::::/ \ \::::::you make the mistake::::::::::: :::/ /\ \ \:::::you judge a man by his race:::: ::/ / /\ \ \::::you go through life:::::::::::: :/ / /__\_\ \:::with egg on your face:::::::::: / / /________\::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: \/___________/::::::::::-beastie boys::::::::::

1997-01-15 18:12pHLANGEpHACEbasically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person by nature you like

From:: pHLANGEpHACE <Richard@afx.idiscover.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:12:48 +0000
Subject:: (idm) shnorbital

basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person by nature you like predictable safe music,you like to hear a limited amount of new tracks and you like to hear the SAME tracks performed everytime you go see a gig with slight variations,this is fine you were born this way and probably can't change or understand what all that noise is about.please don't worry,please,you're beautiful, e v e r y t h i n g i s g o i n g t o b e j u s t f i n e . butcherd.d.claims

1997-01-16 04:57Chris.Hilker>basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person >by nature Not as

From:: Chris.Hilker <cspot@hyperreal.com>
To:: Ironic Dance Music <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:57:56 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) shnorbital
Reply to:: (idm) shnorbital

quoted 2 lines basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person

>basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person >by nature

Not as boring as people who think they know what kind of person I am, "by nature," based on my taste in music. Are people who like Italian food more boring than people who like Mexican food?

quoted 1 line you like predictable safe music

>you like predictable safe music

I have to keep reminding myself, Orbital's music is predictable, but music that always goes "cheesy bit, mad drums, repeat cheesy bit" isn't. Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will actually believe that there's anything dangerous about Squarepusher? C. -- C.Hilker (cspot@hyperreal.com) "He was mesmerized by the light-pictures, and the music sent him right into dreamland"

1997-01-16 15:04Kent WilliamsOn Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Chris.Hilker wrote: > Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music

From:: Kent Williams <kent@inav.net>
To:: intelligent dance <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:04:02 -0600 (CST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) shnorbital
Reply to:: Re: (idm) shnorbital

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Chris.Hilker wrote:

quoted 3 lines Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will

> Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will > actually believe that there's anything dangerous about Squarepusher? >

I stepped on a Squarepusher CD, slipped and hurt my bummie. THAT's dangerous! --------------------------------------------------------------------- "i love the smell of new carpet. it makes me dizzy. just like when you fall in love." -- Mike Dvorkin Home Page, featuring Reagan on Black Velvet, the EMP Compilation CD, samples of my music, etc http://soli.inav.net/~kent/ Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

1997-01-16 06:45Julius anthony MartinezOn Wed, 15 Jan 1997, pHLANGEpHACE wrote: > basically if you like orbital over squarepusher

From:: Julius anthony Martinez <martinez@mail.sdsu.edu>
To:: pHLANGEpHACE <Richard@afx.idiscover.co.uk>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 22:45:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: (idm) Snorbital Borbital
Reply to:: (idm) shnorbital

On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, pHLANGEpHACE wrote:

quoted 2 lines basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person

> basically if you like orbital over squarepusher you are a boring person > by nature you like predictable safe music,

I guess that's a predictable assumption. :-) Not accurate though. I happen to think Orbital's newest album is infinately more rewarding listening than Squarepusher's ...so let's take a little trip through my music collection to see how "safe" and "predictable" my musical tastes are: Ummm...most of the Rephlex catalog (;-)....Nurse With Wound and United Daries catalog, Whitehouse...well, maybe they are predictable..but certainly not "safe" :-) The Fax catalog, Skam catalog, Rather Interesting catalog, Esplendor Geometrico <wink> (people who have heard EG's early work circa 1982 and how similar some of it sounds to some Aphex Twin will get it), ART label, Emissions Audio Output catalog, and loads more "safe" and "predictable" music...hehehe Cheers. T.

1997-01-16 05:48Gonzi (Fresh)> Are people who like Italian food more boring than people who like Mexican food? Hmmm...I

From:: Gonzi (Fresh) <fresh@linkonline.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:48:30 -0800
Subject:: Re: (idm) shnorbital

quoted 1 line Are people who like Italian food more boring than people who like Mexican food?

> Are people who like Italian food more boring than people who like Mexican food?

Hmmm...I don't know there are some pretty funky italian dishes. More like someone who prefers fish sticks to sashimi.

quoted 2 lines Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will

> Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will > actually believe that there's anything dangerous about Squarepusher?

Maybe not dangerous. Exciting, innovative, original, daring, and just plain fucking mad is more on point. Orbital is good for what it is, but they aren't nearly as far out there as Tom J. in terms of breaking new ground and audio experimentation and that's why I thought Squarepusher should have won the poll this year. Live drum loops and harpsichords seem downright bland next to Port Rhombus. IDM (or whatever you want to call the crazy shit we listen to) should always be about moving forward and trying new things in my opinion. Innovation should always take precedent over delivering the tried and true in a competent way (despite what the whole 'but what about quality' crew seems to think). It can't stay 1993 forever lads... _____ / ,-,_) /,_) (/ RESH Live & Direct from the G-Spot, Orange County, California, USA http://www1.linkonline.net/fresh/fresh.htm

1997-01-16 11:02Hary J Walsh> > Maybe not dangerous. Exciting, innovative, original, daring, and just > plain fucking

From:: Hary J Walsh <hwalsh@ilont7.ilo.dec.com>
To:: <fresh@linkonline.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:02:51 +0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) shnorbital
Reply to:: Re: (idm) shnorbital

quoted 6 lines Maybe not dangerous. Exciting, innovative, original, daring, and just

> > Maybe not dangerous. Exciting, innovative, original, daring, and just > plain fucking mad is more on point. Orbital is good for what it is, but > they aren't nearly as far out there as Tom J. in terms of breaking new > ground and audio experimentation and that's why I thought Squarepusher > should have won the poll this year.

So for the interntational chocolate making festival next year, I'll try to break new ground by entering with chocolate made from chopped up telephones and butter. I mean, it's experimental, groundbreaking stuff... bound to win.... - Hary J Walsh Don't you hate it when life doesn't follow the manuals?

1997-01-16 20:59Philip DowneyWell, I've been back on idm for a day, but it seems Orbital won the poll, while sqps came

From:: Philip Downey <threnody@bu.edu>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:59:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) shnorbital
Reply to:: Re: (idm) shnorbital

Well, I've been back on idm for a day, but it seems Orbital won the poll, while sqps came somewhere later. Personally I find squarepusher rather boring. Alternating drum rolls and mediocre bass playing is something I don't need more of, or really at all. The only really interesting jungle I have ever heard are Hangable Autobulb and the Disjecta ep's, specfically Gyric and Looking for Snags are the only ones I find to be experimental or 'different' in any way. If I want real bass playing, I'll listen to Edgar Meyer and Victor Wooten. If I want banging drums I'll listen to jazz from the 40's and the 50's. Bully for Orbital. I'm just glad we didn't end up with a NOvember surprise in this year's poll. Tri repetae indeed. Phil Downey On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Gonzi (Fresh) wrote:

quoted 16 lines Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will

> > > Do you expect, by claiming that Orbital's music is "safe," that anyone will > > actually believe that there's anything dangerous about Squarepusher? > > Maybe not dangerous. Exciting, innovative, original, daring, and just > plain fucking mad is more on point. Orbital is good for what it is, but > they aren't nearly as far out there as Tom J. in terms of breaking new > ground and audio experimentation and that's why I thought Squarepusher > should have won the poll this year. Live drum loops and harpsichords > seem downright bland next to Port Rhombus. IDM (or whatever you want to > call the crazy shit we listen to) should always be about moving forward > and trying new things in my opinion. Innovation should always take > precedent over delivering the tried and true in a competent way (despite > what the whole 'but what about quality' crew seems to think). It can't > stay 1993 forever lads... >

I don't understand the reference, but you seem to be implying that In Sides is somehow like 2. Soundwise maybe, the synth pads to tend to resemble each other. Otherwise, the difference in beats, and melodic creativity are far beyond 1993. Phil Downey

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