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quoted 1 line From: Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk>

>From: Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk>

Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:48:51 +0000 Subject: Re: (idm) Tusken Raiders

quoted 2 lines For the sheer hell of it, I decided to order 'Bantha Trax' plus

>> For the sheer hell of it, I decided to order 'Bantha Trax' plus >> Mira Calix's 'Llanga'.

quoted 2 lines So how exactly are you just "for the hell of it" ordering a rare MP

>> So how exactly are you just "for the hell of it" ordering a rare MP >> album and a ltd to 500 Warp release?

quoted 2 lines Well, over here in the UK I work for Virgin Our Price, one of the

>>Well, over here in the UK I work for Virgin Our Price, one of the >>biggest music retailers in the country.

yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have killed vinyl? mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores that actively push and promote this music and not gathering dust in the 'err. don't know which section to file it in' dept of 'music for the masses' chainstores....i was in virgin the other day and was shocked at how expensive these people are - eg 15.99 is average price for uk cd...anybody who buys music from these stores needs a good slapping... sm@4thworld

On 20-Dec-96, 4th World wrote:

quoted 3 lines From: Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk>

>>From: Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 1996 00:48:51 +0000 >Subject: Re: (idm) Tusken Raiders

quoted 2 lines For the sheer hell of it, I decided to order 'Bantha Trax' plus

>>> For the sheer hell of it, I decided to order 'Bantha Trax' plus >>> Mira Calix's 'Llanga'.

quoted 2 lines So how exactly are you just "for the hell of it" ordering a rare MP

>>> So how exactly are you just "for the hell of it" ordering a rare MP >>> album and a ltd to 500 Warp release?

quoted 2 lines Well, over here in the UK I work for Virgin Our Price, one of the

>>>Well, over here in the UK I work for Virgin Our Price, one of the >>>biggest music retailers in the country.

quoted 6 lines yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have killed

>yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have killed >vinyl? >mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores that actively push >and >promote this music and not gathering dust in the 'err. don't know which >section

You should be telling Warp etc. that, it was after all them that decided to make it a limited edition! If they only wanted the supercool idm nobs to get a copy then maybe they would have made sure it didn't get into the hands of the Vinyl-killing megastores. And Justice for All! Bulldog.

On 20 Dec 96 at 6:39, 4th World wrote:

quoted 2 lines yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have

> yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have > killed vinyl?

I thought it was the invention of CD players that killed vinyl.

quoted 4 lines mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores

> mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores > that actively push and promote this music and not gathering dust in > the 'err. don't know which section to file it in' dept of 'music for > the masses' chainstores...

Muh! Either you didn't read my post properly, or else you're simply lacking a clue or two. Stuff such as Bantha Trax isn't sitting in the stores. It's sitting in a warehouse that belongs to our distributors, be it someone like Vital or Disc. Just about every other music store you care to name uses the same distributors. If you order Bantha Trax from Virgin, you'll get it from Disc's warehouse. If you order Bantha Trax from some techno specialist shop in Manchester, you'll get it from Disc's warehouse. Kind of ruins your whole argument, doesn't it?

quoted 1 line anybody who buys music from these stores needs a good slapping...

> anybody who buys music from these stores needs a good slapping...

Yeah, well not everyone in the world is a 100% IDM merchant. If it's commercial stuff you're after, the chart discounts are ideal. You won't find cheaper prices on new mass-market commercial releases outside the big chains. If it's non-IDM stuff you're after, then there's not many independents you can go to. Of course, if all you're going to buy is obscure IDM, then the big chainstores aren't ideal (and I never said they were). I use a lot of independent specialists myself, but since I work at Virgin I take whatever opportunity I can to get hold of certain items. And, of course, I get juicy staff discounts too. Ie, all of Gescom's releases only cost me a tenner in total. So, are we gonna talk about music, or have you got more sour grapes to crush? .+'''+. mark@sonance.demon.co.uk M A R K http://www.netlink.co.uk/users/sonance/ `+.,.+' http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

In message <851117023.529157.0@sonance.demon.co.uk>, Mark Stevens <mark@sonance.demon.co.uk> writes

quoted 4 lines On 20 Dec 96 at 6:39, 4th World wrote:

>On 20 Dec 96 at 6:39, 4th World wrote: > >Muh! Either you didn't read my post properly, or else you're simply >lacking a clue or two. Stuff such as Bantha Trax isn't sitting in the

<snip>

quoted 2 lines So, are we gonna talk about music, or have you got more sour grapes

>So, are we gonna talk about music, or have you got more sour grapes >to crush?

Tiz the season to be jolly.....or, had you forgotten? :) -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions

Message text written by >>4thworld then >mark stevens

quoted 2 lines yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have

>> yeah - virgin/our price - what are yer gonna do after you have >> killed vinyl?

quoted 1 line I thought it was the invention of CD players that killed vinyl.

>I thought it was the invention of CD players that killed vinyl.

mmm.maybe it was the fact that it dosen't fit in nice shiny small plastic cases , or maybe it was the fact that some sectors of the retailing industry decided it wasn't cost effective...

quoted 4 lines mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores

>> mira calix and bantha trax should be sitting in stores >> that actively push and promote this music and not gathering dust in >> the 'err. don't know which section to file it in' dept of 'music for > >the masses' chainstores...

quoted 3 lines Muh! Either you didn't read my post properly, or else you're simply

>Muh! Either you didn't read my post properly, or else you're simply >lacking a clue or two. Stuff such as Bantha Trax isn't sitting in the >stores. It's sitting<snip>

yawn - spare me the lecture..i own my own shop and have worked as a buyer in both major and independant stores in the past...virgin should concentrate on their sheep mentality based market and leave the good music to people who really care about it.....

quoted 1 line anybody who buys music from these stores needs a good slapping...

>> anybody who buys music from these stores needs a good slapping...

quoted 5 lines Yeah, well not everyone in the world is a 100% IDM merchant. If it's

>Yeah, well not everyone in the world is a 100% IDM merchant. If it's >commercial stuff you're after, the chart discounts are ideal. You >won't find cheaper prices on new mass-market commercial releases outside >the big chains. If it's non-IDM stuff you're after, then there's not >many independents you can go to.

err . this is idm - im not talking about the 'spice girls' , you should have lurked on this list a bit longer:) , do i have to s p e l l i t o u t to you?, i wasnt making a point about the mechanics of distribution.....

quoted 2 lines So, are we gonna talk about music, or have you got more sour grapes

>So, are we gonna talk about music, or have you got more sour grapes >to crush?

sour grapes - nah...this is a 'discussion' list - look it up in the dictionary , ok..you want to talk about music - say something interesting then stuart @ 4thworld *cutting edge mail order* http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/4thworld/ np - reload - teq