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1996-03-13 22:19Gonzalo Merchan (idm) Mainstream Media & IDM
└─ 1996-03-14 01:41Brian J Goddard (idm) Orbital at Lollapalooza!?
└─ 1996-03-14 05:16Chris.Hilker Re: (idm) Orbital at Lollapalooza!?
1996-03-14 01:08Eylon Israeli Re: (idm) Mainstream Media & IDM
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1996-03-13 22:19Gonzalo MerchanSome thoughts on mainstream media and IDM: Rolling Stone gave SAW II and I Care Because yo
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Some thoughts on mainstream media and IDM: Rolling Stone gave SAW II and I Care Because you Do 4 stars. Their highest rating is 5 stars(classic), which they usually only reserve for boxed sets or re-issues. Pulse mentions Aphex now and again. It seems like there's one person on the staff who's really into him. The cover of 'I care' was included in the best albums of the year section, and someone suggested a guy whose desert island discs included Phillip glass check out Aphex's "Rubarb Donkey." hehe. On MTV when the Bjork album came out and she announced the US tour, Kurt Loder said Bjork would be touring with "the equally brilliant and enigmatic Aphex Twin." Lollapalooza: Although its been shown on Lollapalooza that meathead teenagers can get into hip-hop no problem (Cypress Hill, Beastie Boys, Ice Cube) I doubt very strongly they would appreciate IDM very much, which is really at times very avante garde, and way above their heads I believe. Orbital is actually one of the more down to earth and straight ahead acts we talk about on the list, but I still don't think they'd be excepted at all. The reason they can accept hip-hop and not IDM is that hip-hop is mainly about agresssion, which they understand from punk, alternative, etc. IDM requires more work becuase you create your own meanings. The farthest my Hip Hop teenage brother ventures into my IDM collection is Wagonchrist( I think he said "Damn!"), some Nightmares on Wax, and some Chemical Brothers things. He thinks U-ziq is dumb and likes 2 or 3 Aphex songs. Orbital he thinks is wimpy, and he doesn't get ambient at all, though he did like the Far Out Son of Lung 12' when I played it for him. Anyway, the best idea for Orbital would be if they took the second stage during Metallica's set. During my one and only Lollapalooza experience the second stage was acutally much more interesting than the first. Not only could I actually get close enough to see the people without getting trampled on, but it had a wonderful vibe going for it. Not the the "I'm going to kick your ass in the name of love" vibe from the first stage. On the second stage: Stereolab (oh my god), Pharcyde, Shonen Knife, Cypress Hill... -Fresh ========================================================================= Fullerton College claims no responsibility to the opinion expressed above (This is an automatic stamp from our Email system and not from the user.) =========================================================================
1996-03-14 01:41Brian J GoddardOn Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Gonzalo Merchan wrote: > Anyway, the best idea for Orbital would be i
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Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:41:10 -0500 (EST)
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On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, Gonzalo Merchan wrote:
quoted 5 lines Anyway, the best idea for Orbital would be if they took the second stage> Anyway, the best idea for Orbital would be if they took the second stage > during Metallica's set. During my one and only Lollapalooza experience > the second stage was acutally much more interesting than the first. Not > only could I actually get close enough to see the people without getting > trampled on, but it had a wonderful vibe going for it.
I hope they would be on the second stage. I don't think I could stand the sight of alterna-teens body surfing during Kein Trink Wasser. --+ Brian +-------------------- http://world.std.com/~bgoddard/ -------------------------------
1996-03-14 05:16Chris.Hilker>I hope they would be on the second stage. I don't think I could stand the >sight of alter
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Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:16:42 -0800 (PST)
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quoted 2 lines I hope they would be on the second stage. I don't think I could stand the>I hope they would be on the second stage. I don't think I could stand the >sight of alterna-teens body surfing during Kein Trink Wasser.
Yeah, isn't it *terrible* when *people you don't respect* enjoy things that you enjoy? It means that *you might have something in common with them.* C. -- cspot@hyperreal.com (Chris.Hilker)
1996-03-14 01:08Eylon IsraeliAt 02:19 PM 3/13/96 -0800, Gonzalo Merchan wrote: >Lollapalooza: > >Although its been show
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At 02:19 PM 3/13/96 -0800, Gonzalo Merchan wrote:
quoted 19 lines Lollapalooza:>Lollapalooza: > >Although its been shown on Lollapalooza that meathead teenagers can get >into hip-hop no problem (Cypress Hill, Beastie Boys, Ice Cube) I doubt >very strongly they would appreciate IDM very much, which is really at >times very avante garde, and way above their heads I believe. Orbital is >actually one of the more down to earth and straight ahead acts we talk >about on the list, but I still don't think they'd be excepted at all. >The reason they can accept hip-hop and not IDM is that hip-hop is mainly >about agresssion, which they understand from punk, alternative, etc. IDM >requires more work becuase you create your own meanings. > >The farthest my Hip Hop teenage brother ventures into my IDM collection >is Wagonchrist( I think he said "Damn!"), some Nightmares on Wax, and >some Chemical Brothers things. >He thinks U-ziq is dumb and likes 2 or 3 Aphex songs. >Orbital he thinks is wimpy, and he doesn't get ambient at all, though he >did like the Far Out Son of Lung 12' when I played it for him. >
All of you must have already forgotten what's it like to hear it 1st time blasting with the bass eating you tummy. Not all of us made the long journey via Depeche mode, EBM etc., I jumped straight line from The Birthday Party and Einsturzende to Der Klange der famille and then had a lot of cathing up to do. Only because I was lucky to be of the very few who got to the outdoor parties and was exposed to it and open enough. Hearing it live, seeing it live - It makes a difference. When the prodigy came here many people started listening to techno, just because they heard it proper at last. I know Israel is not the US and I know The PRodigy aren't The Hartnoll bros. but I am sure the effect will be the same. snowjob@actcom.co.il The Morpheus Equation: Start + Middle + End = Sand