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1996-01-31 19:38ElmerFudd RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew'
└─ 1996-02-01 14:40James Skilton AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
1996-02-01 17:00CiM Re: AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
├─ 1996-02-01 20:23Dr. Giggles Re: AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
└─ 1996-02-02 02:40crazy jola (idm) Re: AGCG + specific hate
└─ 1996-02-04 11:43Che Re: (idm) Re: AGCG + specific hate
1996-02-01 20:38ElmerFudd RE: AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
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1996-01-31 19:38ElmerFuddA Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology. Beautiful album (best of the year for me).
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Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:38:42 -0000
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A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology. Beautiful album (best of the year for me). Polyrythmic, layered beats, crossing all boundaries. Check out "Anita's Dream" for certifiable proof of genius at work. Subtropic does'nt even come close to this kind of sound (and I like the Subtropic album) sashainboston Hey all, new to the list... I recall his debut album from... 87? Black Lemonade I think. Definitely some sound before his time, or at least, before his time in the stream it was picked in. Voodoo Ray had an almost dada-esque quality about it. Perhaps genius, certainly original. Elmer
1996-02-01 14:40James SkiltonElmerFudd wrote on Wed, 31 Jan 96 19:38:42 GMT : > Hey all, new to the list... I recall hi
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James Skilton
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AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
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ElmerFudd wrote on Wed, 31 Jan 96 19:38:42 GMT :
quoted 2 lines Hey all, new to the list... I recall his debut album from... 87?> Hey all, new to the list... I recall his debut album from... 87? > Black Lemonade I think. Definitely some sound before his time, or
at
quoted 2 lines least, before his time in the stream it was picked in. Voodoo Ray> least, before his time in the stream it was picked in. Voodoo Ray > had an almost dada-esque quality about it. Perhaps genius,
certainly
quoted 1 line original.> original.
I think you mean Automanikk (sp?), which came out in 88 or 89. "Hot Lemonade" was a subsequent single I believe. "Voodoo Ray" came before the LP and is indeed a defining track in the history of house/techno - one of the first (if not _the_ first) UK tracks which really sounded right IMO, and one which stands the test of time, hence its inclusion on the excellent "Flux Trax" comp, for instance. When I say "sounded right", what I mean is: at the time a lot of UK "house" had a really dull juddery feel to it - lacking the flow of the US stuff from (principally) Chicago and Detroit. Either that or samplathons with blatant Todd Terry rip-off beats. Voodoo Ray took what sounded to me at the time to be primarily Detroit influences in the main track and twisted that round to sound completely unique. Gerald was a member of the original line-up of 808 state, and co-wrote "Pacific State", which they released after his departure. I saw him play live in Lancaster UK when I was at university, in 89 I think, and he played a storming version of that track in his set. I once passed over a copy of his "28 gun bad boy" LP, on vinyl no less. Very rare I believe. But the shop wouln't let me hear it and I was feeling less than flush at the time. Anyone know this record? J ^ __________ ________.__/_____ _||_/ James Skilton aka Steady J _[]/_____________[.__\____-_ DJ and Party Animal | | Part Time Hedonist |____________________________| Full Time Technohead |__|-' '-|__| Steady-J@Firefox.co.uk
1996-02-01 17:00CiMAt 14:40 01/02/96 GMT, James Skilton wrote: > >Voodoo Ray took >what sounded to me at the
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Thu, 1 Feb 1996 17:00:04 GMT
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At 14:40 01/02/96 GMT, James Skilton wrote:
quoted 4 lines Voodoo Ray took> >Voodoo Ray took >what sounded to me at the time to be primarily Detroit influences in >the main track and twisted that round to sound completely unique.
AGCG said was much in an interview - he said that _Voodoo Ray_ was him trying to replicate that Detroit sound but kind of screwing it up. Brilliant track - pretty formative for me. "Ayyy-a-ha..."
quoted 1 line Gerald was a member of the original line-up of 808 state,>Gerald was a member of the original line-up of 808 state,
'Twas he in fact, who owned the original TR-808 that lent itself to the bands name.
quoted 2 lines and>and >co-wrote "Pacific State", which they released after his departure.
The best (and earliest?) version of which is on _Quadrastate_. Fantastic ending. || [CiM] || s.walley@uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/
1996-02-01 20:23Dr. GigglesOn Thu, 1 Feb 1996, CiM wrote: > At 14:40 01/02/96 GMT, James Skilton wrote: > > > >Voodoo
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Re: AGCG (was RE: (idm) Re: Subtropic 'Homebrew')
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On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, CiM wrote:
quoted 25 lines At 14:40 01/02/96 GMT, James Skilton wrote:> At 14:40 01/02/96 GMT, James Skilton wrote: > > > >Voodoo Ray took > >what sounded to me at the time to be primarily Detroit influences in > >the main track and twisted that round to sound completely unique. > > AGCG said was much in an interview - he said that _Voodoo Ray_ was him > trying to replicate that Detroit sound but kind of screwing it up. > > Brilliant track - pretty formative for me. "Ayyy-a-ha..." > > >Gerald was a member of the original line-up of 808 state, > > 'Twas he in fact, who owned the original TR-808 that lent itself to the > bands name. > > >and > >co-wrote "Pacific State", which they released after his departure. > > The best (and earliest?) version of which is on _Quadrastate_. Fantastic ending. > > || [CiM] > || s.walley@uea.ac.uk > || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/ >
Don't forget about 808 State's lp Newbuild from 1988 that Gerald is on, I absolutely love that album. Also they did some other projects together like the Lounge Jays-Sex Mechanic, and Hit Squad Manchester. derek 0--\___/--\___/---0 moses@teleport.com
1996-02-02 02:40crazy jolaany fan of gerald/808 state's pacific state should check the b-side of gerald's "fx" relea
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Thu, 1 Feb 1996 18:40:23 -0800 (PST)
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(idm) Re: AGCG + specific hate
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any fan of gerald/808 state's pacific state should check the b-side of gerald's "fx" released major label columbia style "specific hate" also featuring mayday's take on "fx" in my opinion the real a side was the b. in the spirit of the remix discussion... ______________________________________________________________________________ Cameron psu00110@odin.cc.pdx.edu Blacksmith on the anvil in your ear Electronica for the Jaded and Discerning ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, CiM wrote:
quoted 7 lines The best (and earliest?) version of which is on _Quadrastate_. Fantastic ending.> > The best (and earliest?) version of which is on _Quadrastate_. Fantastic ending. > > || [CiM] > || s.walley@uea.ac.uk > || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/ >
1996-02-04 11:43CheOn Thu, 1 Feb 1996, crazy jola wrote: > > any fan of gerald/808 state's pacific state shou
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Sun, 4 Feb 1996 11:43:14 +0000 ()
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Re: (idm) Re: AGCG + specific hate
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On Thu, 1 Feb 1996, crazy jola wrote:
quoted 5 lines any fan of gerald/808 state's pacific state should check the> > any fan of gerald/808 state's pacific state should check the > b-side of gerald's "fx" released major label columbia style "specific > hate" also featuring mayday's take on "fx" in my opinion the real a side > was the b.
...Specific Hate being a particularly clever snipe at the 808 boys in the wake of Gerald's departure after Pacific State.... Che
1996-02-01 20:38ElmerFuddSteady J wrote about AGCGerald... I think you mean Automanikk (sp?), which came out in 88
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Thu, 1 Feb 1996 20:38:34 -0000
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Steady J wrote about AGCGerald... I think you mean Automanikk (sp?), which came out in 88 or 89. "Hot Lemonade" was a subsequent single I believe. "Voodoo Ray" came before Happened to speak to a m8 the other day... Hot Lemonade was the Album.. Automanikk? don't know about that. Also hear he releases a new album soon? or has done recently? Elmer --x--