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Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. What true about that? (just as Global Comm. should be doing the new Nike commercials..) And are there any opinions about 'Illusions of Grandeur', the album by Hardkiss? Peel Seamus

Dillusions of Grandeur is fairly good (i have the vinyl tho so i'm missing tracks), nicely programmed hip-hop beats, cool textures throughout and very well produced. Some of the songs are stronger than others. For instance the secret mystery track ain't too great. But anyway blah blah blah as we humans say. furg worpy? reccomended. Props to Jon Drukman....(any album soon?) J On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Peel Seamus wrote:

quoted 12 lines Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial.

> Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. > > What true about that? > > (just as Global Comm. should be doing the new Nike commercials..) > > And are there any opinions about 'Illusions of Grandeur', the album by Hardkiss? > > > Peel Seamus > >

personally, e thought that delusions of grandeur (e think this iz thee album peel meant, unless there'z a new 'illusions') waz a waste ov a cd. e mean that WHOLE cd waz typikal typikal TYPIKAL e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. here'z a review e did pHor it in cleveland'z own us rocker. (nevermind thee name ov thee publikation-- it'z not what that'd imply) Hardkiss -- Delusions of Grandeur. Hardkiss 2215-I Market Street Suite 836 San Francisco CA 94114 A two-CD set by various projects related to the three Brothers Hardkiss and their label. Ironically enough, the label is called Hardkiss. The brothers include Gavin Hardkiss (Hawke), Scott Hardkiss (God Within), and Robbie Hardkiss (Little Wing). There is also included a 'top secret song' by '???,' a remix of 'Drums are Dangerous' by the Drum Club as mixed by the Brothers Hardkiss, and two songs by a band from Ft. Lauderdale that's signed to the label called Rabbit In The Moon. Basically, the stuff is 'ambient' tekno. It's intended solely for the danse floor (if that), preferably heightened through the use of hallucigenetic drugs. This just screams acid-- and subsequently screams boring just as loud. Here are overused percussion loops, typical 'ambient' keyboards, cheesy sounding synthed bass, overused samples, and repetition like you've never known. The Drum Club song and the 'top secret song' are very good, and worthwhile of one's time. The rest? Pffht, I wouldn't even want to danse to them. just mi opinion tho, obviously. s. __ /\ /\ /\_ /\ ______________ slave@castillo.wariat.org \ / \ / \/\/ \_ / \___/ atm0sFear \/ \/ \/

On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, slavestate spewed:

quoted 8 lines personally, e thought that delusions of grandeur (e think this iz thee

> personally, e thought that delusions of grandeur (e think this iz thee > album peel meant, unless there'z a new 'illusions') waz a waste ov a cd. > e mean that WHOLE cd waz typikal typikal TYPIKAL > e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol > d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. > > here'z a review e did pHor it in cleveland'z own us rocker. (nevermind > thee name ov thee publikation-- it'z not what that'd imply)

WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? I can't even read it!!! -robert --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) "Thanks for the technical data. It sure is nice to read something useful for once, instead of all that noise about useless Roland x0x boxes." -metlay

On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, rbcIII wrote:

quoted 1 line On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, slavestate spewed:

> On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, slavestate spewed:

quoted 8 lines e mean that WHOLE cd waz typikal typikal TYPIKAL

> > e mean that WHOLE cd waz typikal typikal TYPIKAL > > e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol > > d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. > > > > here'z a review e did pHor it in cleveland'z own us rocker. (nevermind > > thee name ov thee publikation-- it'z not what that'd imply) > > WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? I can't even read it!!!

It is probably hard for him to type when he is feigning all those street-rappin' hand gestures at the same time... or else his 'c' and 's' keys are broken--hey we aren't all on the best equipment ;^> David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)301-3011 grep -i casio goodwillbins >> mystudio ; grep -i atari goodwillbins >> mystudio ;

On Thu, 13 Jul 1995, Peel Seamus wrote:

quoted 3 lines Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial.

> Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. > > What true about that?

I don't know, but I did see a Hardkiss remix on an Elton John single...

quoted 1 line And are there any opinions about 'Illusions of Grandeur', the album by Hardkiss?

> And are there any opinions about 'Illusions of Grandeur', the album by Hardkiss?

It's "Delusions of Grandeur" and the title is most appropriate.

quoted 1 line Matt

>>Matt

quoted 3 lines here'z a review e did pHor it in cleveland'z own us rocker. (nevermind

>> >> here'z a review e did pHor it in cleveland'z own us rocker. (nevermind >> thee name ov thee publikation-- it'z not what that'd imply)

quoted 1 line WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? I can't even read it!!!

>WHAT THE HELL IS THIS SHIT? I can't even read it!!!

That's what the delete key is for. Everytime i see something written like this, i just delete it without even reading it. I have too much to do in the course of a day to sit and try to decipher someone's cryptic rambling -- Mark Bowen mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu "The universe," said [the devil], "is a Ph.D thesis that God was unable to successfully defend." -James Morrow

quoted 4 lines Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial.

>Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. > >(just as Global Comm. should be doing the new Nike commercials..) >

...and William S. Burroughs is going to sell Bold laundry detergent. c Cody Junior's Farm Records an interesting selection of music jrsfarm@tyrell.net send your wantlists http://www.tyrell.net/~jrsfarm/ visit our web pages

Cody Ochs writes:

quoted 5 lines Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial.

>>Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. >> >>(just as Global Comm. should be doing the new Nike commercials..) >> >...and William S. Burroughs is going to sell Bold laundry detergent.

Matter of fact: Future Sound Of London didn't only make the soundtrack but were also the featured "stars" of a Nike/Fila/Reebok/Adidas (I really can't remember which) ad campaign that ran on European TV a couple of years ago. - chris@minsk.docs.uu.se <http://www.update.uu.se/~chris/>

Maybe it's ob talk, as in ob-I c-ob-an t-ob-alk Ob-ob t-ob-alk. -- "This unit might get hot while operating, but there is nothing to worry about it." -- Chapter 1, Verse 10, the book of MKS30. -- kent.williams@cadsi.com [Kent Williams/CADSI/2651 Crosspark Rd/Coralville IA 52241/(319)626-6700]

At 3:20 AM 7/14/95, LARRY S LEITNER wrote:

quoted 4 lines Speaking of Hardkiss...

>Speaking of Hardkiss... > >Look at who did some of the Engineering for some of the songs. Some old >IDMers!

I'm not that old. Engineering, huh? Some thanks! -- Name: Jon Email: jsd@cyborganic.com Web: http://www.cyborganic.com/People/jsd

quoted 2 lines e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol

>e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol >d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable.

<snip, complaints> it's either: a) hooked-on-phonics isn't as good as they claim... or... b)this is the work of a brilliant neo-deconstructivist- *you* decide. btw, this could be a lot worst... ..he could be writing in pig latin! (AAAAAAA!!! kill!KILL!!KILL!) from a rustic -<J> 'don't take this personal slavestate- ...had to be done... ;-) ' <G>

On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, anontrav wrote:

quoted 4 lines e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol

> > >e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol > >d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. >

.... it's either: a) hooked-on-phonics isn't as good as they claim... or... b)this is the work of a brilliant neo-deconstructivist --------------------------------------------------------------- It's not that we can't *understand* what anontrav's saying, right? It's just somewhat annoying to have to decode. `e' means `he'; `z' = `s'; `b' = `be.' Quite simple, no? cathy <Curtis@news.latimes.com>

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quoted 14 lines On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, anontrav wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, anontrav wrote: >> >> b)this is the work of a brilliant neo-deconstructivist- >> >Grammatology eez sooo phat. Which reminds me of a friend who remarked >that a book I was reading, Prophets of Extremity:Nietzsche/Heidegger, >Foucault, Derrida sounded like a heavy metal group. This lead to a >discussion as to line up- Nietzsche: drums and experimental percussion, >Foucault: funky bass with lots of pedal, Heidegger: guitar- steals >Nietzsche's lyrics, cuts all the good lines and then takes credit (he can >do that he cut the deal with the record company) and lastly Derrida: >vocals, singing said lyrics with a sexxy french accent and appeal which >is a large component of the groups success. >

<grin> wow! you're absolutely right! i didn't realize this, but nietzsche's chapter names even sound like heavy metal song titles, check this out: (these are from _thus spake zarathustra_ ) On War and Warriors On the New Idol On Free Death The Drunken Song The Tomb Song The Ugliest Man- etc etc etc... (cool, eh?) i can hear it now: <chorus, wailing>: Goooood isssss deEEEEEaaaaaad!!!! GooOOOOOOd izzzzz DEAD!!!! :-) hee hee hee- cya, later... from a rustic -<J> 'hmmm' <G> ----------End of Original Message----------

quoted 9 lines e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol

>> >e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol >> >d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. >> >.... it's either: a) hooked-on-phonics isn't as good as they claim... > or... b)this is the work of a brilliant neo-deconstructivist >--------------------------------------------------------------- >It's not that we can't *understand* what anontrav's saying, >right? It's just somewhat annoying to have to decode. `e' means `he'; >`z' = `s'; `b' = `be.' Quite simple, no?

quoted 1 line cathy <Curtis@news.latimes.com>

>cathy <Curtis@news.latimes.com>

ooooh! nasty nasty! i get the feeling all of you understood quite clearly what he was trying to say. let's not be little and belittle. i haven't been liking hardkiss's recent tracks either - at least, the ones which appear on the trance atlantic 2CD - i don't know what's up with them, having produced that hawke record (esp. _3 moods.._) that i like so much. whatever. peace, darshan ps. oh yeah, is their new shit any better than those trance atlantic tracks?

On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Darshan M. Jesrani wrote:

quoted 4 lines ps. oh yeah, is their new shit any better than those trance atlantic

> > > ps. oh yeah, is their new shit any better than those trance atlantic > tracks?

their remix of Elton John is boring (but better than the Vasquez remixes).

quoted 4 lines i haven't been liking hardkiss's recent tracks either - at least,

> i haven't been liking hardkiss's recent tracks either - at least, > the ones which appear on the trance atlantic 2CD - i don't know what's > up with them, having produced that hawke record (esp. _3 moods.._) that > i like so much.

you guys are doing this just to torture me, right? the production team on the 3 Nudes and Raincry EPs was me, mike wertheim, and jeff taylor. despite what the credits say, we did a hell of a lot more work than just "additional production." jeff and i basically wrote all of the song "pacific coastal highway" while gavin hardkiss sat in the studio and watched. bitching aside, if you want more stuff like 3 Nudes & Raincry, check out Jeff Taylor's work under the name DELUXE. The CD "Let The Magic Flow" will satisfy your Hardkiss cravings. there is a 12" called "Futura" which has young american primitive and exist dance remixes as well. Jeff's work has the same sort of melodic trippiness that is on those Hardkiss records. i have sort of diverged from that path however... although you should check out the b-side of my new 12", a track called "another rainy day".

On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, Jon Drukman wrote:

quoted 1 line bitching aside, if you want more stuff like 3 Nudes & Raincry, check

> bitching aside, if you want more stuff like 3 Nudes & Raincry, check

out Jeff Taylor's work under the name DELUXE. The CD "Let The Magic Flow" will satisfy your Hardkiss cravings. Once said, I'll say it again. Hardkiss is dead! Long live Ultraviolet Records and the Pacific Collective!!!

quoted 1 line there is a 12" called "Futura" which has young american primitive and

> there is a 12" called "Futura" which has young american primitive and

exist dance remixes as well. A floor stopmer for sure! -robert --> __ _ _ _____ _____ _____ / _\ | || || _ \|_ _|/ _ \ / /_\\ | -- || |_) | _| |_ | (_) | ______________ /______\\____/|_____/|_____|\_____/ ( *electronic* ) "Thanks for the technical data. It sure is nice to read something useful for once, instead of all that noise about useless Roland x0x boxes." -metlay

quoted 10 lines On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, anontrav wrote:

>On Fri, 14 Jul 1995, anontrav wrote: > >> >> >e-wanna-b-so-ambient-danse-all-e-kan-do-iz-lame-o-dronez-with-thee-same-ol >> >d-boring-noizez-and-samplez-and-have-everything-b-so-damned-predictable. >> > or... b)this is the work of a brilliant neo-deconstructivist >--------------------------------------------------------------- >It's not that we can't *understand* what anontrav's saying, >right?

what *I'M* saying?

quoted 3 lines It's just somewhat annoying to have to decode. `e' means `he';

>It's just somewhat annoying to have to decode. `e' means `he'; >`z' = `s'; `b' = `be.' Quite simple, no? >

exactly... but for me the novelty of reading these messages has worn off- and now i just delete them on sight- ..besides, i'm too lazy- from a rustic -<J> 'hmmm' <G>

quoted 5 lines Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial.

>> Hardkiss should be making music for the new Levis commercial. >> >> (just as Global Comm. should be doing the new Nike commercials..) >> > ...and William S. Burroughs is going to sell Bold laundry detergent.

Hey, if George Clinton can do Burger King ads . . . Laz

Christian Bartholdsson said once upon a time:

quoted 5 lines Matter of fact:

>Matter of fact: >Future Sound Of London didn't only make the soundtrack but were also >the featured "stars" of a Nike/Fila/Reebok/Adidas (I really can't >remember which) ad campaign that ran on European TV a couple of years >ago.

Something (I think it was "Moscow") from "Accellerator" was played as background music last night on "Extra" during a piece about Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley. *sniff*

On Sat, 15 Jul 1995, Pete Ashdown wrote:

quoted 3 lines Something (I think it was "Moscow") from "Accellerator" was played as

> Something (I think it was "Moscow") from "Accellerator" was played as > background music last night on "Extra" during a piece about Hugh Grant and > Elizabeth Hurley. *sniff*

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