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http://enoughrec.bandcamp.com/album/duality ;) speaking of i would love to release something on pertin-nce, maybe ill try to send them some stuff again sometime :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Basma O <basma.o@gmail.com> wrote:

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> It is very interesting to point that out actually, first things come to > mind are the netlabels that I was introduced to through the list... > > I usually go to Enough Records almost always as a first stop, then > deffintely pertin-nce for me, where I'd be looking for that random track or > that, I don't usually hear what comes out unless its on my soundcloud > stream... oops.. some list members have great streams as well.. > > On 26 September 2014 15:38, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sham has a good point in that when you go from artist A, to his mate who >> did a remix, artist B, to his neighbor who he did a split with, artist C, >> yes, you're probably going to find three artists you like, HOWEVER, you're >> going to find three artists who probably share a lot of equipment, >> techniques, and style, not because they are bad or uncreative, but just >> because of convenience, circumstance, and personalities. >> You do have to make that leap at some point... >> As for art without compromise, the first thing that comes to mind when >> you say that is net labels, which exist still in a huge profusion, giving >> away huge amounts of great music -- yet I myself am guilty of ignoring a >> lot of their output for commercial labels, and why is that? I've tried to >> analyze my own motives, and all I can really come up with is that there is >> a sense, mostly artificial, that if someone is putting money behind >> something, it must somehow be better, or have passed some grade of >> quality. I mean we are all sitting here talking about WARP, why is that? >> We all know there are literally a hundred net labels we could right now go >> download comparable quality of music from, have way more options, and not >> even PAY anything for most of it, or pay what we want. >> Obviously, a lot of us grew up with The Black Dog, Aphex, Autechre, >> Boards of Canada, etc, at a time when internet music, bandwidth and storage >> space really, was limited, and people who had thrown all their money and >> time into building studios had a huge advantage as far as the quality of >> music they could create, and they needed a return on their investment to >> eat and live. So we're always going to buy music from our old favorites >> from Warp or whoever is selling it, but I feel like there is a real block >> as far as artists gaining fame on net labels and then moving into a >> commercial space where they are maybe actually making a living. Yes it >> happens, in fact, in IDM it happens maybe more than in any other genre, >> because of the internet-centric nature of the genre, but we, I think, need >> to look to the new labels, the net labels, if we want to see new innovative >> music without compromise, we have to take money out of the equation. >> Because although I agree Warp should be fearless and uncompromising, that >> has sadly closed the doors on a lot of brick and mortar labels that just >> plain needed money to keep the doors open, pay the bills, etc. >> Sorry this email got too long and I may have completely lost my point >> halfway through. >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 8:42 PM, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >> >>> You're getting trapped in my wording... pushing at the edges can also >>> mean things like "let's see what what.cd has on freeleech because those >>> chaps tend to have good taste." Meanwhile, suggest-o-matics like Spotify >>> actually paint you into a corner in the long run. Look up the term "filter >>> bubble." And, hey, it's impossible not to hear stuff on the radio, on TV, >>> etc unless you deliberately isolate yourself! >>> >>> >>> On 9/25/2014 8:46 PM, Sham Beam wrote: >>> >>>> The graph theory approach is good but it's possible to get stuck in dead >>>> ends without the occasional non-linear jump from outside influences. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 9/24/2014 2:27 AM, Mehmet Ismail wrote: >>>> >>>>> I like the approach. Understanding definitely adds a nice dimension. >>>>> >>>>> Example for me being Moiré's debut album being released on Werkdiscs. >>>>> When you know that Werkdiscs = Actress aka Darren Cunningham then it >>>>> makes a lot of sense. >>>>> >>>>> Nice that this example was put in my head by Clint's mention of >>>>> Actress. Awesome indeed. >>>>> >>>>> Mem >>>>> >>>>> On 23 Sep 2014, at 15:09, Artie Qewpie <artie@tymnet.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I go with the "graph theory" approach myself. Like, I read that LFO >>>>>> helped get Autechre signed, so perhaps I check LFO out. Then I'm >>>>>> looking at the warp discography and there's something with a clever >>>>>> name next to whatever I got last, so I check that out as well... just >>>>>> sort of gradually push at the edges. I like doing things this way >>>>>> because it helps me form a more complete picture. Nothing happens in >>>>>> a vacuum... so when you start getting stuff based on who influenced >>>>>> who, who is mates with who, you get understanding as well as new >>>>>> music. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> --arturius qewpie >>>>>> that which is, is wat >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/23/2014 10:00 AM, Clint Anderson wrote: >>>>>>> i know this is useless advice but my best place for discovering >>>>>>> stuff is >>>>>>> pretty much universally when friends/associates of mine just start >>>>>>> flogging >>>>>>> the shit on their facebook/twitter/everytime i see them -- basically >>>>>>> how i >>>>>>> heard about Actress, which i still ignored for awhile until people >>>>>>> kept >>>>>>> bothering me about it, and finally listened to and was like 'oh shit >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is awesome' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:45 AM, Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This Is My Jam >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> --arturius qewpie >>> that which is, is wat >>> >> >> >