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From:
dan robitaille
To:
intelligent dance music
Date:
Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:06:28 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:
[idm] re: timeless music
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On this note, the folkish songs we sang as kids, as american or european kids... kids today dont know those songs. maybe the melodies remain the same. that old give a dog a bone song, my newfew think of the same song with different lyrics... lyrics provided by Barney. alot of the folkish and popular songs of the last 30 years (50s-80s) are no longer sung or recognized by little kids. apparently, the most popular of songs are not so timeless. john jacob jingle heimer schmidt... you say that to a kid and they will give you a stupid look (which is normal I suppose.) note, that the recognization of songs and what kids know now versus then is due in part to copyrighting the music. alot of those older folky songs are copyrighted, so people came up with new ones... such as the happy birthday song and so on. even alot of christmas/ holiday tunes have changed. I popped open this old folio of guitar tunes I have called "fun with guitar" and it has the old cheesey standards in it... but kids today would not know any of them. maybe jingle bells. so much for timelessness. dan robitaille Subject: Re: [idm] 'timeless' music
quoted 11 lines Well, you have to acknowledge that the idea of a> Well, you have to acknowledge that the idea of a > "serious artist" is a modern one (e.g. developed during > the Renaissance), both musically and societally. Beyond > that, most "popular music" was passed on orally and > never transcribed (mostly folk songs; I'm sure some of the > songs we sang as kids have also been around for a fair > amount of time). The two big exceptions I can think of are > "art music" (=classical) and songs involved > in religious participations (psalms & hymns in the Western > tradition; I'm sure there are thousands of other > non-Christian examples).
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