I always thought the music from 'Super R-Type' was pretty decent.
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Subject: idm Digest 20 Jul 2001 23:06:40 -0000 Issue 1335
quoted 8 lines idm Digest 20 Jul 2001 23:06:40 -0000 Issue 1335
> idm Digest 20 Jul 2001 23:06:40 -0000 Issue 1335
>
> Topics (messages 39712 through 39741):
>
> Re: gamelan and IDM
> 39712 by: Adam Piontek
>
> Tracks that make you go 'hmmmm... like the compilation on Sprawl Imprint
!!!
quoted 228 lines 39713 by: philippe petit
> 39713 by: philippe petit
>
> thad biggerstaff's email?
> 39714 by: Randall Roberts
>
> Re: [ce] [Chicago] SATURDAY: Converter / Asche / Morgenstern / Atomly!
> 39715 by: synctank
>
> Re: Thad Biggerstaff???
> 39716 by: |se!q [is!| bias]
>
> Re: Artists Listing
> 39717 by: wolf kemker
>
> Re: Fischerspooner
> 39718 by: Kevin Ryan .
> 39719 by: eric.synthesizer.org
>
> Global Communications (+ Chapterhouse) question
> 39720 by: frank
> 39723 by: eric.synthesizer.org
> 39729 by: Ryan Schilling
>
> lounge recommendations
> 39721 by: Tim Gregory
> 39722 by: William Samuels
> 39724 by: Aaron D Meyers
> 39725 by: tweibrecht.juno.com
> 39726 by: EggyToast
> 39730 by: Andrei
> 39731 by: erik pearson
>
> JOHN TEJADA, SCOTT HENRY - I Spy this weekend!
> 39727 by: Steven Severin
>
> HEY!
> 39728 by: ThetaSine
>
> Re: New Billboard chart
> 39732 by: i
> 39733 by: Aaron D Meyers
> 39735 by: eric.synthesizer.org
>
> Re: gamelan and IDM/super nintendo
> 39734 by: B Wagner
>
> Live now - from Berlin - loveweek webcasts
> 39736 by: Pit Schultz
>
> Re: sketch
> 39737 by: Lance . Inaudible
>
> Re: idm Digest 19 Jul 2001 03:46:05 -0000 Issue 1328
> 39738 by: Jordan Koch
>
> Re: loving older music
> 39739 by: Anig Browl
>
> Re: reviews / opinions / taste
> 39740 by: Anig Browl
>
> Re: The Colour of Music
> 39741 by: Anig Browl
>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 08:36:38 -0700 (PDT)
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: [idm] gamelan and IDM
> Message-ID: <20010720153638.83132.qmail@web13808.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: andrei@world.std.com
> > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 12:52 AM
> >
> > James R McPherson wrote:
> > > When one of the fellas in Autechre was on the
> > > list (about 2 years ago) this thread came up
> > > - when I posed a similar query he (dunno which
> > > one) responded with a very long list of
> > > excellent recordings, where to get them, what
> > > to listen for, and where to travel to hear
> > > gamelan "orchestras". Unfortunately, almost
> > > all of his recommendations were available
> > > only in Indonesia.
> >
> > It would be great to see this post if anyone has
> > it in their archives. I guess it's in the idm-
> > archives, but since I wouldn't know when it was
> > posted I'm not about to search through all those
> > huge files.
>
> I keep a local copy of the archives, and searching for
> specific text in all the files is pretty easy, so
> here's what I found:
>
> As near as I can tell, Autechre were
> lota@pop3.demon.co.uk on the list. They left the list
> in June, 1999. [BTW, there's an excellent post from
> Graham H Freeman (Sean and Rob Redux) halfway down
> that month's archive which summarizes and analyzes the
> situation.]
>
> Anyways, back to the point, unless they also posted
> from a different address and I'm just missing
> something, the only post from Sean or Rob regarding
> gamelan music is this:
>
> "check out all basf "world sound" cassette releases.
> they have relased shitloads of otherwise unheard
> gamelan stuff internationally and its really cheap.
> also contact universitas warmadewa in denpasar. much
> stuff there."
>
> However, there's a tonne of other info about gamelan
> to be uncovered in that month's archive, and I'll
> paste the rest of what I found at the end of this so
> you all don't have to go searching for it. First,
> though, I'd just like to comment that the archives are
> an amazing resource, and a lot of fun to peruse every
> once in a while, too! There are great gems and
> nuggets of information in there, as well as
> interesting quotes and reviews... But I digress;
> just, everyone should give it a glance now and then!
>
> Here's some gamelan info I found (from different
> people):
>
> -----
>
> Check out Robert Macht's
> "Suite for Javanese Gamelan and *Synthesizer*". Yes,
> it is as good as you
> probably are imagining right now. They have it at
> cdnow (with sound samples).
>
> ---
>
> [someone recommended] Music For The Gods: The
> Fahnestock South Sea Expedition: Indonesia
> Label: RYKO ,1994
> Recorded in Indonesia in 1941.
>
> ---
>
> My favorite Gamelan) is on a budget "World" label (
> maybe budget...
> I'm guessing as I got them cheap ) is "Degung
> Sabilulungan,
> Music of West Java, Vols 1+ 2" The label is Interra.
> I've heard a lot
> of Gamelan inluding the joemull mentioned, " Music for
> the Gods".
> The above 2 discs are *highly* recommended.
>
> ---
>
> just picked up a used copy of "music from the morning
> of the world: the
> balinese gamelan & ketjak: the ramayana monkey chant"
> on
> nonesuch/explorer. excellent stuff - it was recorded
> in 1966 and features
> some great playing. I wasn't sure when I picked it up
> what the monkey
> chant would be, but my suspicions were correct. if
> you've seen the movie
> 'baraka,' [I think] there's a sequence with a group of
> people seated in
> concentric circles, chanting rapidly and moving their
> arms in the air.
> that's the monkey chant - on the CD a 22 minute
> recording of its enactment
> of the ramayana, monkey hordes rushing to aid prince
> rama in his battle
> with the evil king ravana. "complete with monkey
> chorus"
>
> in general the balinese gamelan music is much faster
> than that of java or
> sumatra, but local styles of music vary widely across
> the population of
> 213+ million on 6000 islands as do the various
> classical and folk musics.
> thus the 17 so-far volumes of the smithsonian folkways
> series, all of
> which are amazing, I'm sure. I only have volume 8.
>
> there's a page of gamelan-related links at
> http://www.gamelan.org/AGI/jd.websites.html
>
> and short reviews of gamelan CDs here:
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo/gamelan/gamelan_reviews.html
>
> directory of gamelan groups in the US, canada and
> europe
> http://www.glue.umd.edu/~satu/gamelan/list.htm
>
> ---
>
> and thus ends my blantant stealing of other people's
> information. There's probably more to be found...
>
> -Adam
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:33:04 +0200
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: philippe petit <philippe-petit@wanadoo.fr>
> Subject: Tracks that make you go 'hmmmm... like the compilation on Sprawl
Imprint
quoted 23 lines !!!
> !!!
> Message-ID: <3B584F30.21707E8F@wanadoo.fr>
>
> hmmm is a very interesting compilation on the London based label Sprawl
> Imprint on which sonic artists and experimenters from around the globe
> tackle their chosen traditional hymns and anthems...an absorbing sonic
> adventure featuring such luminaries as Kreidler, Kit Clayton, David
> Toop, Vladislav Delay, Wang inc, Benge, Shenton Engine [of Add n to
> (x)], Opiate, Antye Greie Fuchs [of Laub], Wiggle (japan), Farben,
> Matrix (japan), Carl Stone, Kaffe Matthews, Apache 61 + many sprawl
> artists: si-cut.db, puppy, freeform, BitTonic, Osymyso...
> HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
> philippe
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:48:26 -0800
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Randall.Roberts@riverfronttimes.com (Randall Roberts)
> Subject: thad biggerstaff's email?
> Message-ID: <005CE950.C22266@riverfronttimes.com>
>
> If anyone's got it, please please can you take a few seconds to drop me an
email
quoted 1 line with it. Or, hopefully, Mr. Biggerstaff himself will be kind enough to see
> with it. Or, hopefully, Mr. Biggerstaff himself will be kind enough to see
this
quoted 7 lines and email me...
> and email me...
>
> thanks, and sorry for the intrusion.
> RR
> randall.roberts@riverfronttimes.com
>
> also: I'd highly recommend Boredoms Rebore Vol. 0: Eye remixes the
Boredoms.
quoted 1 line It's one of the most beautiful and textured releases of the year, filled
> It's one of the most beautiful and textured releases of the year, filled
with
quoted 1 line subtlety, grace and a ton of synthetic energy. Those of you who only know
> subtlety, grace and a ton of synthetic energy. Those of you who only know
them
quoted 1 line as inyerface mantra screamers will be surprised by Eye's ear for beauty.
> as inyerface mantra screamers will be surprised by Eye's ear for beauty.
Really.
quoted 8 lines ------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:05:53 -0500
> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "synctank" <synctank@mediaone.net>
> Subject: Fw: [ce] [Chicago] SATURDAY: Converter / Asche / Morgenstern /
Atomly!
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:23:11 -0700 (PDT)
> To: "Cahill, Colin" <CCahill@ropesgray.com>
> From: "|se!q [is!| bias]" <sebi@digo.inf.elte.hu>
> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Thad Biggerstaff???
> Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.1010720182213.26222G-100000@digo.inf.elte.hu>
>
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Cahill, Colin wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me where/ how to contact Thad Biggerstaff?? I paid him
$129
quoted 178 lines over 6 weeks ago for several cds & lps, and I have not received them nor
> > over 6 weeks ago for several cds & lps, and I have not received them nor
> > have I heard from him at all. Any info is greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Sorry for burdening the list.
>
> no that's fine, i've paid 20 bucks to 'multsanta' last november as far as
> i remember and still nothing. hey don't you wanna contact me MAN?
> (sorry just been nervous about it...)
>
> bias.
> malenkaja.voda.[70].222.3540.............ssaJ6oJd u! owep d3 peolf!yS:se!8
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:33:15 +0200
> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "wolf kemker" <wolf@kemkerwolf.de>
> Subject: RE: [idm] Artists Listing
> Message-ID: <000701c11139$aca6b8a0$18aae195@amd800>
>
> > I was wondering were can i find an extensive list of
> > artists that fall into the IDM genre.
>
> ok friends,
> have to plug in here too:
>
> http://www.kompaktkiste.de
>
> " 5.000+ electronic music compact discs, 1.000 vinyls,
> with tracks, times, covers, details and links.
> 180+ labels, 880+ artists, 850+ compilations. "
>
> not all discogs are 100% complete, nont all idm,
> but hey, its just my tiny collection
> (+ plus some generous helpers additions).
>
> check that,
>
> ciao,
> wolf.
>
> ----://-----------------------------------------------------
> mailto:wolf@kompaktkiste.de
> http://www.soliton-records.de/soliton.htm
> http://www.kompaktkiste.de
> ----://-----------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:03:50 +0000
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: "Kevin Ryan @" <i__oo__@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] Fischerspooner
> Message-ID: <F310ZfSp1J106zPpPku00001371@hotmail.com>
>
> <<You wouldn't know it from the jacket/pant combo they designed for Levi
> Strauss!>>
>
> Au contraire--upon seeing the aforementioned combo,
> I knew it immediately.
>
> It's just one of those things.
>
> And I forgot to mention that they're also God's gift
> to soap fans. In my rampant musicocentrism I'm always
> neglecting all things soap. Things. Things. Soap.
> Things. One of those things. Just... the
> electrodarts of sweet devotion. Does this new hotmail
> interface blow or what? Please don't answer that.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:17:53 -0700 (PDT)
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: eric@synthesizer.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Fischerspooner
> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107201015270.17298-100000@shell3.ba.best.com>
>
> ><<You wouldn't know it from the jacket/pant combo they designed for Levi
> >Strauss!>>
> >
> >Au contraire--upon seeing the aforementioned combo,
> >I knew it immediately.
>
> I don't know, it sure struck me as more New Romantic than Electro. More
> Visage than Pretty Tony. :)
>
> -eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:30:01 -0400
> To: "idm-list (E-mail)" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: frank <frank@LucasSchoormans.com>
> Subject: Global Communications (+ Chapterhouse) question
> Message-ID: <6B6068723C01D51191FE00508B91A7A806A7@MUNDI>
>
> Hello,
> I've just realized that I've
> never really heard Global Communications.
> I like the Jedi Knights, but I'm
> certain that GC is quite different.
> Could someone describe their sound?
> I know that they're very highly
> regarded, I managed to miss ever
> hearing them though!
> Also, I'm specifically interested
> in this release:
>
> chapterhouse - blood music:
> pentamerous metamorphosis dedcd011s
>
> I'm very familiar with Chapterhouse.
> How does GC re-work them?
>
> Finally, are the same gentlemen(?)
> in GC responsible for the Slowdive
> remix, In Mind? Any thoughts?
>
> Thanks! I apologize if this is an
> exhausted topic!
>
> Best,
> Frank
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 12:06:34 -0700 (PDT)
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: eric@synthesizer.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Global Communications (+ Chapterhouse) question
> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107201201450.17298-100000@shell3.ba.best.com>
>
> >I like the Jedi Knights, but I'm
> >certain that GC is quite different.
> >Could someone describe their sound?
>
> Lush, 90's-style melodic ambient.
>
> >I'm very familiar with Chapterhouse.
> >How does GC re-work them?
>
> Some vocals make it into the remixes, and there are hints of the original
> tracks. Pentamerous Metamorphosis is a good overview of their style, so if
> you like it you'd want to look for 76:14 (also on Dedicated, more on the
> ambient side) and Remotion (more beaty).
>
> -eric
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:45:50 -0600
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Ryan Schilling <ryanschilling@subdimension.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] Global Communications (+ Chapterhouse) question
> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010720144550.00b162b0@mail.subdimension.com>
>
> If you have the Artificial Intelligence II comp., Global Comm. remix Link
> (which is them under a different name) in one of their best tracks as GC.
> It's pretty representative of their sound.
>
> -Ryan
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:40:24 -0400
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>
> Subject: lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <A0F5B05449ABD411BCE900A0C9A941EA0D6E73@COMMSRVR>
>
> hopefully this isn't too off topic.
> if this is annoying - email me offlist.
>
> My wife hates my music (only types I listen to are electronica & post
rock),
quoted 3 lines but we recently found a middle ground - modern electronic lounge. Problem
> but we recently found a middle ground - modern electronic lounge. Problem
> is, that much of it that I've sampled seems to delve too much into cheesy
> sounds, smooth jazz or easy listening (like some of the thievery corp
stuff
quoted 216 lines I listened to...).
> I listened to...).
>
> What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
>
> Any suggestions would be good.
>
> tg
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 11:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>, idm@hyperreal.org
> From: William Samuels <w_technoir@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <20010720184218.21180.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> --- Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org> wrote:
> >
> > My wife hates my music (only types I listen to are
> > electronica & post rock),
> > but we recently found a middle ground - modern
> > electronic lounge. Problem
> > is, that much of it that I've sampled seems to delve
> > too much into cheesy
> > sounds, smooth jazz or easy listening (like some of
> > the thievery corp stuff
> > I listened to...).
> >
> > What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
> > Any suggestions would be good.
>
> It's not necessarily lounge, but it might what you are
> looking for check out Nicola Conte - Bossa Per Due
> [ESL] or Mark De Clive-Lowe on Universal Jazz. The
> Ubiquity Recordings - New Latinaire series are good.
>
> Compost Records, and G Stone has cool material!
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:36:58 -0400
> To: Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>, idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <1244d113c8.113c81244d@homemail.nyu.edu>
>
> It couldn't be as annoying as half of the other posts, so i'm replying
> ON list. Besides, I've got an IDM angle here ;)
>
> You should most definitely check out Tipsy. Their first album "Trip
> Tease" is great. Allegedly, the duo (whose names I conveniently
> forget) had been constructing loopy lounge songs from loops culled from
> many Esquivel recordings and and other lounge essentials. They
> couldn't get clearance on the samples (you'll recognize many if you are
> down with lounge/exotica ala esquivel, denny, baxter, etc) so they
> brought in a bunch of Bay Area jazzbos to record the parts they'd
> sampled. The result is an awesome loungy but very modern sounding
> album with lots of great moods.
>
> After that, a 12" was released with a new song and remixes by u-ziq and
> curd duca. This is FUCKING EXCELLENT. Its called Flying Monkey Fist.
>
> And then five years after Trip Tease (in 2001), they released "Uh
> Oh!". Its not quite as mellow as Trip Tease, but offers a more
> fractured idm-friendly (not to say that trip tease isn't idm friendly)
> perspective of lounge stuff. Lots of instruments cut up and played
> backwards. I love it. Tipsy is rad! By their albums.
>
> Also, Curd Duca (mentioned above) is kinda electronic loungey stuff. I
> reccomend the elevator series (3 volumes out).
>
> And then more obviously, Luke Vibert's album with BJ Cole is pretty
> loungy. In terms of more traditional stuff, I like Martin Denny a
> lot. I'm at work now so I don't know exactly what it was called, but
> he has a really awesome moog-lounge album. Oh wait... I think its
> called Exotic Moog. Thats all that springs to mind at the moment.
> Have fun.
>
> -Aaron
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>
> Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 2:40 pm
> Subject: [idm] lounge recommendations
>
> > hopefully this isn't too off topic.
> > if this is annoying - email me offlist.
> >
> > My wife hates my music (only types I listen to are electronica &
> > post rock),
> > but we recently found a middle ground - modern electronic lounge.
> > Problemis, that much of it that I've sampled seems to delve too
> > much into cheesy
> > sounds, smooth jazz or easy listening (like some of the thievery
> > corp stuff
> > I listened to...).
> >
> > What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
> >
> > Any suggestions would be good.
> >
> > tg
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:56:44 -0400
> To: tgregory@ccmc.org
> From: tweibrecht@juno.com
> Cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <20010720.160144.-137487.3.tweibrecht@juno.com>
>
> On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:40:24 -0400 Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>
> writes:
> > hopefully this isn't too off topic.
> > if this is annoying - email me offlist.
> >
> > My wife hates my music (only types I listen to are electronica &
> > post rock),
> > but we recently found a middle ground - modern electronic lounge.
> > Problem
> > is, that much of it that I've sampled seems to delve too much into
> > cheesy
> > sounds, smooth jazz or easy listening (like some of the thievery
> > corp stuff
> > I listened to...).
> >
> > What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
> >
>
> tipsy...
>
> tom w
>
> np: dub syndicate - acres of space
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:12:43 -0500
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010720150926.00b16170@youn0394.email.umn.edu>
>
> Maybe it's just me, but a lot of the Kruder & Dorfmeister albums are
> loungey. I only have the K & D Sessions, but i like that one quite a
> bit. Especially for the rainer truby trio remix.
>
> there's also some laid back jazzy stuff (does that qualify as lounge?) on
> Ninjatune, if you look into their back catalog.
>
> cheers,
> /derek
>
> At 03:56 PM 7/20/2001 -0400, you wrote:
>
> >On Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:40:24 -0400 Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org>
> >writes:
> > > hopefully this isn't too off topic.
> > > if this is annoying - email me offlist.
> > >
> > > My wife hates my music (only types I listen to are electronica &
> > > post rock),
> > > but we recently found a middle ground - modern electronic lounge.
> > > Problem
> > > is, that much of it that I've sampled seems to delve too much into
> > > cheesy
> > > sounds, smooth jazz or easy listening (like some of the thievery
> > > corp stuff
> > > I listened to...).
> > >
> > > What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
>
> -------
> eggytoast.com
> -------
> now on the interweb
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:44:52 -0400
> To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: Andrei <andrei@world.std.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.4.21.0107201617390.9981-100000@world.std.com>
>
> Tim Gregory <tgregory@ccmc.org> wrote:
>
> > What are some essential lounge CDs out there?
>
> new:
>
> Senor Coconut
>
> old (I'm no expert, but these are good):
>
> Dean Elliot - "Zounds! What Sounds!"
> Which just got released legitimatelly on cd for the first time.
>
ean.html
quoted 3 lines Perrey-Kingsley - "The Out Sound From Way In!"
>
> Perrey-Kingsley - "The Out Sound From Way In!"
>
c_m_2/102-4553439-4911311
quoted 3 lines Arthur Lyman - "Taboo"
>
> Arthur Lyman - "Taboo"
>
c_m_1/102-4553439-4911311
quoted 36 lines Andrei
>
> Andrei
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:51:34 +0000
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: "erik pearson" <efric@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] lounge recommendations
> Message-ID: <F70UHQHh2wLCVYl4maE00001f42@hotmail.com>
>
> >Arthur Lyman - "Taboo"
>
> Very good... Especially if you can find it on old, warbly vinyl. :)
>
> erik
> state.music
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 20:27:25
> To: nw-raves@hyperreal.org, idm@hyperreal.org
> From: "Steven Severin" <monkeyhouse43@hotmail.com>
> Subject: JOHN TEJADA, SCOTT HENRY - I Spy this weekend!
> Message-ID: <F150hl0gMNLPOftlQIF000015c3@hotmail.com>
>
> Friday Wake Up Productions and Underground Nation Present: TMINUS:30 with
>
> JOHN TEJADA: 7TH City, Palette Recordings : Los Angeles, CA
>
> With an exceptional catalogue of releases from numerous record labels,
> L.A.'s mystery man techno and tech house producer--John Tejada--is a
> premiere innovator of techno music. Widely credited for his work
developing
quoted 1 line the tech house sound, John's music is well known in the underground
> the tech house sound, John's music is well known in the underground
techno
quoted 3 lines scene for which some of his most impressive work was created. A gifted
> scene for which some of his most impressive work was created. A gifted
> musician as a child, John started to experiment with electronic music at
> the age of sixteen. He has released ep's and full lengths on labels such
as
quoted 6 lines A13 (London), Multiplex (Denmark), and Generations R&S (Belgium), which
> A13 (London), Multiplex (Denmark), and Generations R&S (Belgium), which
> showcased his unique style of techno that can not be heard elsewhere. As a
> Dj, he has showcased his unique style on dancefloors throughout the world.
>
> MATT SCENIC : State of Mind Records, Decepticon Unit : Madison, Wi
> Drawing upon long established musical roots that traverse the darker
styles
quoted 3 lines of the electronic underground, Matt Scenic likes to send his audience on a
> of the electronic underground, Matt Scenic likes to send his audience on a
> fast paced, adrenaline filled tour of modern day Acid-Techno and Hard
> Techno. As the owner of state of mind records in Madison, Wi, He has
access
quoted 53 lines to some of the best new music around, especially the gritty acid sound of
> to some of the best new music around, especially the gritty acid sound of
> the midwest.
>
> Dj BuBu : Rising Sun, Underground Nation : Seattle
>
> $10.00 advance @ ticketweb.com and Orpheum Records.
>
> Saturday One Life Presents
> SCOTT HENRY (Buzz, DC)
> Chloe (Groovetech)
> $10 adv. @ www.ticketweb.com and Orpheum Records.
> 10 pm show
>
> Steven Severin
> I-Spy Talent Buyer
> 206-374-9492 Phone
> 206-374-9458 Fax
> monkeyhouse43@hotmail.com
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:45:08 -0400
> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "ThetaSine" <thetasine@thetasine.net>
> Subject: HEY!
> Message-ID: <009701c1115c$dd6483a0$63585f18@thetasine>
>
> Test message from a newbie list member... any shoutbacks?
>
> theta
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 14:20:39 -0700 (PDT)
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: i <interdit@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] New Billboard chart
> Message-ID: <20010720212039.70145.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com>
>
> Apparently the idm list is <sarcasm> "really excited" </sarcasm> by this
> news... ;)
>
> -i
>
> --- Marc Weidenbaum <marc@disquiet.com> wrote:
> > Apparently, Billboard has launched an "electronic music" chart.
> >
> >
> >
>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:22:53 -0400
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [idm] New Billboard chart
> Message-ID: <648c3606d8.606d8648c3@homemail.nyu.edu>
>
> Yea... its all pretty exciting. I don't think I'll be able to sleep
> until I find out if the Tomb Raider soundtrack beats out Totally Dance
> for the number one spot next week!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: i <interdit@yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, July 20, 2001 5:20 pm
> Subject: Re: [idm] New Billboard chart
>
> > Apparently the idm list is <sarcasm> "really excited" </sarcasm>
> > by this
> > news... ;)
> >
> > -i
> >
> > --- Marc Weidenbaum <marc@disquiet.com> wrote:
> > > Apparently, Billboard has launched an "electronic music" chart.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > http://www.billboard.com/billboard/dail
> > >
> >
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:31:43 -0700 (PDT)
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: eric@synthesizer.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] New Billboard chart
> Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0107201528030.17298-100000@shell3.ba.best.com>
>
> >Yea... its all pretty exciting. I don't think I'll be able to sleep
> >until I find out if the Tomb Raider soundtrack beats out Totally Dance
> >for the number one spot next week!
>
> And of course the unasked question burning in my mind: So where is the
> "Totally IDM" compilation? I can't believe no one's risen to the task of
> garnering this music the commercial credibility it so richly deserves.
>
> -eric
>
> onnow: Shuttle358, "Frame" (12k)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:26:39 -0400
> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "B Wagner" <jonahp@adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: [idm] gamelan and IDM/super nintendo
> Message-ID: <009801c1116b$0c297160$01013418@...bur.adelphia.net>
>
> I just downloaded some mp3s of some gamelan music, and I have to ask, has
> anyone here played Secret Of Mana for the super nintendo? Because I always
> thought the music at the part in the game when you have to save the
> brainwashed towns people from the temple out side of town was the most
> creepy and awesome music I had heard from a video game in a long time.
> Anyways a piece of Balinese gamelan music I downloaded sounded almost
> exactly the same as the secret of mana song. So... this post was no real
> content, but I just wanted to say how excited I am to hear more music like
> this.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 00:54:04 +0200
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> From: Pit Schultz <pit@klubradio.de>
> Subject: Live now - from Berlin - loveweek webcasts
> Message-ID: <937.010721@klubradio.de>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Love Week - LIVE club casts from Berlin's electronic music carnaval
> http://www.klubradio.de
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> TRESOR http://www.tresorberlin.de
>
> Do 19/07
> Globus: True Spirit 2001
> 'True Spirit 1991-2001' John Acquaviva (K7, +8, Definitive, Ontario)
> Sender Berlin DJ Team (Tresor Rec., unGleich, Berlin) Dole (BCC
> Berlin) Tama Sumo (Berlin)
> Tresor: True Spirit 2001
> Sender Berlin DJ Team (Tresor Rec., unGleich / Berlin)
>
> Fr 20/07
> Globus: True Spirit 2001
> DANIEL BELL (7th City / Detroit), Wimpy (Berlin), Mitja Prinz (Berlin)
> Tresor: True Spirit 2001
> NEIL LANDSTRUMM (Tresor Rec., Scandinavia / New York), DAVE TARRIDA
> (Tresor Rec., Sativae / Barcelona), Eva Cazal (Berlin), Marc Snow
> (Boston - Berlin)
>
> Sa 21/07
> Globus: True Spirit 2001
> BLAKE BAXTER (Tresor Rec. / Detroit), MARSHALL JEFFERSON (KMS /
> Chicago), Tom Clark (Highgrade / Berlin), Djoker Daan
> (BPitch Control / Berlin), Senze (grow!Rec. / Berlin)
> Tresor: True Spirit 2001
> JAMES RUSKIN (Berlin), very special Guest (to be announced!)
> Dash (Rampe D / Berlin), Steve D (Berlin)
> SURGEON (Berlin), DJ T-1000 aka Alan Oldham (Berlin), Rok (Berlin)
>
> So 22/07
> Tresor Park: True Spirit 2001
> Dr. Motte (Berlin), Tanith (Timing / Berlin), very special Guest (to
> be announced!)
> Globus: True Spirit 2001
> JOSH WINK (7th City, Tresor Rec. / Detroit), Dave (raum...musik,
> Müller Rec. / Berlin)
> Tresor: True Spirit 2001
> CHRIS LIEBIG [4-Stunden-Set!] (Ersatz Audio / FfM), Dry (Rampe D /
> Berlin), Mad Max (Berlin)
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> WMF http://www.wmfclub.de
>
> Do 19-07 23:00h
> KALEIDOSKOP : Jazzanova + JOE CLAUSELL (Spiritual Life/Ibadan)
>
> Fr 20-07 23:00h
> HARD:EDGED & GROOVE (2 floors)
> floor : Hard:Edged presents 5 German Drum&Bass Labels
> labor : Groove Party: live: Markus Nikolai Feat. Clair Dietrich (Perlon)
> Djs: Rasoul (San Francisco) Tobi Neumann (flokati munich/berlin) DJ T
>
> Sa 21-07 23:00h
> KOMPAKT MEETS WMF - "AudioCologneRocksBerlin) (3 floors)
> live : Schaeben&Voss, Closer Music,TokTok (tbc), Gebrüder Teichmann,
> SCSI 9 (tbc) djs : MICHAEL MAYER, TOBIAS THOMAS, Dixon + Mitja Prinz
> (wmf), Superpitcher, Ralph Christoph, Triple R, Anima....and more
>
> So 22-07 23:00h
> INTERNATIONAL DJ GIGOLOS AT WMF - "BestInternationalEntertainment" (3
> floors) live : FISCHERSPOONER (NY), Crossover (NY) , Superstars of Love
> (St Louis), Miss Kittin & the Hacker (Grenoble)
> djs : HELL (Munic), Traxx (Chicago), Highfish & Diringer (wmf),
> Filippo "Naughty" Moscatello,
> Savas Pascalidis (Stuttgart) , Maya (Frankfurt), Manuela Krause
> (wmf) ... and more friendly djs and lovers
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> OSTGUT http://www.ostgut.de
>
> 21.07.
> LUKE SLATER
> Cora S.
> Ralph Lawson
> Dandy Jack (live)
> Ricardo Villalobos
> Zip
> Paul Brtschitch (live)
> Andre Galluzi
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> MARIA http://www.clubmaria.de
>
> Do 19.07.
> TWICE AS NICE
> twice as nice, authentic/toxic + d2000 pres:
> roland kasper (essence / frisbee tracks / communique us, cologne)
> sammy dee (kanzleramt / perlon rec.)
> jonzon (space teddy / mueller / disko b / gigolo)
> s.p.u.d. (braster org, berlin)
> live: bass.men.tal (liquid sky / electro bunker
> cologne) claus bachor (d2000, cosmium radio)
>
> Fr. 20.07.
> MARIA BOOTY SPECIAL
> 1st floor: godfather (tbc!!) (detroit)
> superclub & booty special feat.
> maurice + andre herzig
> MOVE D (source rec)
> chica paula (ocean club)
> flush (electr. force)
>
> Sa 21.07.
> DANGEROUS DRUMS goes the whole 9 yards
> meat katie, HYPER (whole 9 yards, uk)
> dangerous drums allstars:
> tanith, ed2000, vela, azt star, delta,
> copasetic, rollin thunder, sonnenburg
> & behringer video: pulsare
>
> So 22.07.
> BREAKBEAT SPECIAL
> GOLDIE (metalheadz, uk)
> gush collective (ntt)
> bass dee (exponence)
> nomand, n dee (white dolemite)
> transatlantic (a/b)
> sinista, stanislas + mcs (steppaz convention)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> and more ....
>
> http://www.klubradio.de
>
> all summertimes in GMT + 2
> realplayer 8 basic needed
>
> ** streams starting between 20:00 and 00:00 **
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:55:04 +0800
> To: idm - moderated <idm-m@yahoogroups.com>, IDM List <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "Lance @ Inaudible" <lance@inaudible.com>
> Subject: Re: sketch
> Message-Id: <p05100304b77dbd3107d0@[207.166.194.182]>
>
> >I think they did a cd on Paper too :
> >http://paper.state51.co.uk/backcatalogue/papcd001.html
>
> I dont recall a Sketch release on Paper but their release
> on Apollo several years ago was a beauty. Supposedly they've
> done quite a few releases since that time but i've not
> had a chance to check them out. Anybody heard any of the
> Sketch releases other than 94's 'Reasons to Sway?" Are they
> worth checking out? That first album had some wonderful
> ambient dub moments...
>
> BTW: The official Sketch website was recently launched at:
> http://www.racingjunior.com/sketch-E.htm
>
> --
>
> -->-Lance----
> PO Box 450715
> Westlake, OH 44145
> United States
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 16:01:58 -0700 (PDT)
> To: "Reading, John" <jreading@proxicom.com>
> From: Jordan Koch <kochj@digitalnoise.net>
> cc: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: [idm] Re: idm Digest 19 Jul 2001 03:46:05 -0000 Issue 1328
> Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.05.10107201600090.3375-100000@condo>
>
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2001, Reading, John wrote:
>
> > BoC Maxima is the most beautiful boards.
> > They need to re-release all that stuff...
> >
> > I'm gonna run a shoutcast for a little while of all the rare-ish boards
I
quoted 31 lines have:
> > have:
> > http://204.56.98.159:8000/listen.pls
>
> (I figure I will also jump in there with a BSP)
>
> I also have a bunch of that old BoC stuff, it is on our MP3 (streamcast)
> server and we have a request system.
>
> http://www.digitalnoise.net
>
> ...........
> Jordan Koch
> http://www.digitalnoise.net
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:37:21 +0100
> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "Anig Browl" <anig_browl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] loving older music
> Message-ID: <006d01c11172$50fa2800$bba7869f@pauls>
>
> From: Daniel Cartwright <daniel_cartwright@five-d.com>
>
> > > I know almost instantly if I like it
> > Are you sure? I think some music immediately draws you in, and some you
> have
> > to pay close attention to appreciate.
>
> I agree. Actually a lot of my favorite stuff does not appeal to me much on
> my first listen. When I listen to something for the first time I'm hoping
to
quoted 1 line be blown away and so on, so tracks that are a bit inaccessible or
> be blown away and so on, so tracks that are a bit inaccessible or
demanding
quoted 2 lines don't hold my attention all that well. After I've had an album for a few
> don't hold my attention all that well. After I've had an album for a few
> weeks, and I sit down and listen again without the 'just came back from
the
quoted 4 lines shops' feeling, a track which went under my radar the first time can
> shops' feeling, a track which went under my radar the first time can
> suddenly really grab me. Similarly, stuff which sounds great the first few
> listens often sounds a bit obvious and trite later on. Of course the best
> stuff blows your mind the first time you hear it and continues to do so
over
quoted 4 lines and over and over. Autechre's 'Clipper' is one of my favorites in that
> and over and over. Autechre's 'Clipper' is one of my favorites in that
> regard.
>
> > I had much narrower tastes when I was younger. Because so much was new
to
quoted 7 lines me
> me
> > I could spend a long time just getting the most out of a small range of
> stuff.
>
> I agree. On the other hand, while I'm open to much more music - not least
> because when you start making your own stuff, everything starts to sound
> interesting, even stuff you don't actually like - I'm still very
selective
quoted 3 lines about what I really like, and I feel the same sort of intensity that I did
> about what I really like, and I feel the same sort of intensity that I did
> about the first records I bought as a teenager, though obviously for
> different musical reasons now. When I find something I really like, I
still
quoted 6 lines listen to it over and over like I did then.
> listen to it over and over like I did then.
>
> I suppose there's a continuum between liking music and being obsessed with
> it (I'm near the obsessed end). Many people like music but have other
> priorities, so they don't want something too demanding when they switch on
> the stereo. If music is your main priority in life then inevitably you
have
quoted 1 line to put up with people asking you why you don't settle down to something
> to put up with people asking you why you don't settle down to something
more
quoted 28 lines serious/productive/materially rewarding. And it affects other things - how
> serious/productive/materially rewarding. And it affects other things - how
> many people on this list could happily date someone who listens to power
> ballads or boy/girl bands?
>
> Anig Browl
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 17:49:14 +0100
> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "Anig Browl" <anig_browl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] reviews / opinions / taste
> Message-ID: <007d01c11172$53ed7760$bba7869f@pauls>
>
> From: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
>
> > currently FTV (Fashion TV that is)
> > are advertising a compilation that features... can't remember, but
> > the line up is pretty strong and includes Laurent Garnier and Ian
> > Pooley among many others.
>
> There is a Fashion TV channel now? Is this actual clothes fashion, with
news
quoted 34 lines like 'Black is the new black' (real headline from a serious newspaper last
> like 'Black is the new black' (real headline from a serious newspaper last
> month)? Weird. Scary, in fact!
>
> Anig Browl
>
>
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>
> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 18:03:49 +0100
> To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> From: "Anig Browl" <anig_browl@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [idm] The Colour of Music
> Message-ID: <008201c11172$557724a0$bba7869f@pauls>
>
> From: Sharon Clarke <sharon@infotechcanada.com>
>
> > Ok, this may seem really far out... but do any of you imagine colours
> > when you listen to music?
>
> Only when I take drugs. I wouldn't say I'm a visual person, but whenever I
> try to think about what that means I wind up confusing myself. What I do
> notice when I listen to a song is my spatial imagination - basses have one
> shape and position, different percussion sounds have different shapes, and
> so on. So what I'm imagining with music is more like a sculpture than a
> painting. With electronic music it's like one of those kinetic sculptures,
> which is half machine and half pure shape. A lot of music which I like has
> 'dependencies' - one sound is balancing another or reacting to movement of
> the first and so on. It's probably why I like generative, algorithmic
> sounding stuff, I feel there are a few basic rules or principles
interacting
quoted 8 lines with each other and making something musical. This is basically the same
> with each other and making something musical. This is basically the same
> thing I liked when I used to play with Lego.
>
> That's fun on drugs too of course...occasionally when I've taken mushrooms
> or something at home on my own and I'm listening to music I can imagine it
> sufficiently well to be able to 'see' a track grow as a structure in the
> middle of the room, oscillating away to itself. Lovely. It's a pity there
> isn't more video stuff like this, I've only seen this sort of idea
captured
quoted 1 line (to my satisfaction) on the FSOL 'Lifeforms' video. With the falling cost
> (to my satisfaction) on the FSOL 'Lifeforms' video. With the falling cost
of
quoted 1 line technology and increasing integration between differnt types of media
> technology and increasing integration between differnt types of media
tools,
quoted 14 lines I hope there'll be more of this stuff in the future.
> I hope there'll be more of this stuff in the future.
>
> Anig Browl
>
>
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