--- Myroslaw Bytz <vzaem@humbledesign.com> wrote:
quoted 6 lines thanks for the discussion, by the way, i had a good
>
> thanks for the discussion, by the way, i had a good
> time, and had my mind
> opened a bit more to the tiny complexities that are
> a part of the
> discussion.
Uh-uh. I'm not going to let you be all mature and
back out - this ain't over! :P
Because I have one more very important thought:
"Art" is a real thing. It's not just a term you can
deny. It seems like people think there are all these
different kinds of creative expression, and then
there's this subset called "art." That's just not
quite true.
Human expression is divisible into two types: the
things we do for survival, and everything else. The
"everything else" is art. The survival stuff is
farming, math, engineering, whatever you do to insure
your share of the food, shelter, and bit o' tail you
need.
Just because you don't like your creativity being
called art does not mean it is not art. It is. Get
over it.
The other guy got it right - what seems to be
bothering you is the way some people behave towards
art. The putting it up on a pedestal or on a wall.
If that's not your thing, that's fine, but some people
like it. Sometimes it's nice to take a prolonged look
at something and try to see different things in it.
Sometimes it's nice to try to create something that
will impart a message. Art on walls (or on stages or
screens or on CDs) is sometimes like a little puzzle.
On the other hand, I was walking to the library today
and saw that a museum here in the city is having a big
ol' display of folk art. Something rubbed me wrong
about that: folk art, particularly the stuff from
long-dead cultures, is kind of like an archeological
artifact. It wasn't meant to be put into a museum; it
meant something immediate and cultural to the people
who made it. Particularly if it's a religious
talisman (for example) and you believe that without it
your god is going to deny you water from the skies.
That falls under "expression for survival" and was
therefore not art at the time.
However, despite my misgivings, the folk art display
is still going to go on. Why? Because it's art to us
now. It's historical and tells us things about
ourselves. We can even appreciate old religious
talismans on a level of the art of craftsmanship.
When you get right down to it, you can't deny the fact
that art exists, unless you have a narrower
understanding of what it is, and you can't argue
against how others behave towards art because it
doesn't really reflect anything more important than
their subjective tastes, just as you feel that yellow
squares or garth brooks might not be your "cup of
tea." In the end, it just don't matter, so stop
worrying about it. If looking at Monet or Basqiat on
a wall is one person's cup of tea, good for them! How
dare you try to deny what they are getting out of that
experience, and how dare you suggest that the you know
anything about the motivations or compromise status of
the artists. We all do what we do for our own
reasons, and only we know if we've failed ourselves.
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