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From:
sean whalen
To:
IDM
Date:
Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:47:18 -0600
Subject:
Re: [idm] Macs suck (was: reason software)
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windows CE is realtime... maybe it's time for some ce-based sequencers.... or not. -sean ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Azzarello" <roswell@alumni.antioch-college.edu> To: "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:12 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Macs suck (was: reason software)
quoted 5 lines on 12/4/00 6:53 PM, Loptimiste@aol.com at Loptimiste@aol.com wrote:> on 12/4/00 6:53 PM, Loptimiste@aol.com at Loptimiste@aol.com wrote: > > > <<let's not. it was made in good fun. no harm, no foul. >> > > > > I know.. I'm just really curious.. I've just never heard an
explanation.
quoted 10 lines -j> > > > -j > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > I have some good technical data. The Macintosh operating system is a > realtime OS. This means it has a *FIXED* amount of time to complete
regular
quoted 2 lines tasks i.e. polling the keyboard to make sure it's still there, keeping the> tasks i.e. polling the keyboard to make sure it's still there, keeping the > hard drives spinning correctly, network stuff...this is why the mac is
used
quoted 5 lines more for applications where very precise timing is required (read:> more for applications where very precise timing is required (read: > audio/video). > > Windows (and linux) are not realtime. They take however long they damnwell > please to do regulatory stuff. This creates a problem when your sequencer
is
quoted 25 lines counting 900ppq and the OS wants to check what time it is, or when> counting 900ppq and the OS wants to check what time it is, or when > SuperCollider is processing an audio stream from the hard disk and the OS > wants to check if it's still there. > > But Windows is more popular...funny that. Consequently, many people begin > programming on a Windows machine and port to the Mac. If the people doing > the port don't know much about the MacOS, then they will do what is fast, > not what is good. This is why many Windows-based audio apps collapse when > ported. It's not the computer's fault, it's the programmers. > > And anyone who says that the Mac isn't a great OS for realtime audio > processing, I dare you to explain SuperCollider and MAX/MSP. > > I recently learned these facts, so if anyone else wants to improve on them > go ahead. > > -l[e^2] > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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