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Josh Davison
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Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:28:24 -0500 (CDT)
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Re: [idm] recycling and the beastie thing
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okay when i hear the beastie boys recycling lyrics, i think it's out of laziness rather than the name check. especially Mike D on releases such as the Handsome Boy Modelling School, where he basically coasts on phrases like "yeah.. uh.. (insert title of track here) yeah.. uh..". come on beasties, at least puff daddy puts a _bit_ of work into his tracks. -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Fri, 16 Jun 2000, alex_tea wrote:
quoted 25 lines It's more about a certain ethic in Hip Hop culture -- that of the name> > It's more about a certain ethic in Hip Hop culture -- that of the name > > check. You appropriate somebody else's line or beat or a little hook from > > their song more as a tribute, or at least a knowing reference, rather than > > from a lack of creativity. Granted, Puffy takes it to completely > > unneccessary extremes. But take for example NWA's song Eight Ball -- they > > use a line from an old soul record about the "Diamond in the back, sunroof > > top" or something ( i have no idea who the artist is or if those are the > > actual lyrics ) ... anyway I think the way they worked the little > > reference to the song into the music is very creative, especially if you > > recognize the fact that when they would play the song live, there was > > actually a DJ dropping the actual phrase in from the original record as > > part of the song. > > That's like the way the BeastieBoys recycle their (and others lyrics) > throughout their albums, and the UNKLE track mike d did is almost identical > to intergalatic. And on the first Faith no More album there are two tracks > which use the same lyrics, which in itself harks back to Jamacian dub and > the use of the same backing track with different vocals. A good article to > read on sampling, although it's main focus is remixing is "Verus: The > science of Remixology" which was printed in Obsessive Eye and may also be > appearing at www.e-rmx.com soon (sorry had to give it a prop). > > alex > >
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