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From:
Nuutti-Iivari Merilainen
To:
Jeffrey Barszcz
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Date:
Fri, 10 Dec 1999 11:34:46 +0200
Subject:
Re: (idm) Fruity Loops question/software sequencing
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Jeffrey Barszcz wrote:
quoted 7 lines Hey guys/gals...Any of you that use Fruity Loops know how to do a volume> > Hey guys/gals...Any of you that use Fruity Loops know how to do a volume > slide? I've been playing around with it for months now and I can't figure > out how. If you don't know what I mean: Say you have a looped synth sound > and you want to have it fade in or out smoothly, how the hell do you do it? > It's one of several things that really bothers me about the program. >
With version 1.7.6 you can't do a good volume slide. With version 2.0 the volume and pan knobs are recordable as in ReBirth (with a graphical editor to fine-tune the slides/variations). Most (if not all) of the TS-404 knobs are fully recordable as well. So, I suggest that you get version 2.0 ($99 before December 15). It has a lot of other enhancements as well, like four more effect channels in addition to the ability to use DX plugins (in version 1.7.6 there were only four effect channes and only VST plugin support). The main volume, resonance and cutoff are also recordable (and I think the shuffle slider, too) in the new version. The TS-404 sound has been revamped a bit, so your old tracks might not sound the same anymore, which was a big drawback. Someone asked how the new sound generation algorithms compare to those in the old version but there has yet to be a reply. This applies between versions 1.7.6 and 2.0. I like FL because it is simple, (somewhat :) easy to use and very powerful piece of software in its price class. It does need quite a bit of oomph from a computer if you intend to use a lot of samples/effects/ recorded knobs, but hardware is cheap nowadays. Very good value for the $99 I paid for it. The effects (DX or VST) are quite expensive (compared to FL itself), but for very basic stuff e.g. FL's standard delay and reverb are good enough. The reverb is a bit clunky so I would suggest getting a plug-in for that, and some compressor/limiter/eq plug-ins are good to have (if you want to adjust samples separately on-the-fly instead of finalising them in some sample-editing software).
quoted 5 lines Secondly, what do you guys use to sequence on your PCs? See, I'm getting> Secondly, what do you guys use to sequence on your PCs? See, I'm getting > a new pc at the end of the month and will be able to do a lot more music > stuff (more powerful programs, etc). I like Fruity Loops ok, but I don't > think it was made w/sequencing in mind. >
I use FL even to sequence tracks (especially now with the new version), but every now and then I use Acid as well (with loops imported from FL, FL has an export to Acid setting). I have been content with the FL sequencer when doing software-only tracks, but there are some limitations in FL itself that drives me nuts at times (like the lack of decent support for variable time signatures). For finalising and adjusting samples I use Sound Forge. For finalising the tracks themselvels I use SF as well, but most of the time I run the tracks through T-Rack (a standalone compressor/limiter/eq) to fine-tune the soundscapes. FruityLoops 2.0 http://www.fruityloops.com/ ($99 bef. Dec 15, $129 after) Acid 2.0 Pro http://www.sonicfoundry.com/ ($399) Sound Forge 4.5 http://www.sonicfoundry.com/ ($499) T-Racks 1.1 http://www.t-racks.com/ ($299) Of course Logic Audio Platinum would be the choisest piece of software for a serious bedroom musician, but the price is a bit prohibitive for those of us that do not get their end's meet from dabbling with audio (http://www.emagic.de/, the price I found was 6995DKR, that would be, um, something like $950). I admit that it is less than the four mentioned above, but hey, you get four pieces of software and they do the job well enough for us not-so-very-serious bedroom musicians :). This has _not_ been a product endorsement :) Cheers, -- diversion : nuutti-iivari meriläinen : gordon at diversion dot org communications : http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org