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From:
solenoid
To:
christian a. h.
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Date:
Fri, 23 Jul 1999 16:40:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:
Re: (idm) What The Funkstorung
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On Fri, 23 Jul 1999, christian a. h. wrote:
quoted 2 lines yamaha ry-30 drum machine> yamaha ry-30 drum machine > alesis _forget the name_ sequencer (MMT something??)
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quoted 4 lines alesis wedge> alesis wedge > some other wedge-like processor (didn't catch the name...) > mackie (i think) 16 channel mixer >
I think that is admirable of them to actually be playng live using midi and sequencing and mixing live. I remember someone commented that they were "repetitive"-- well compared to someone with a laptop who is just playing 100% prearranged sequences or just mixing recording of their hard drive, these guys would have a lot more challenging performance to pull off. One of my peeves has revolved aroudn this issue, actually, as I have played live shows where I was the only person programming the music live (changing and editting the sequencing and improvising the mix) and the audience didn't seem to give a shit. Someone else would go on and mix dats or cdr's and get all the hype. You can't play or do certain things wiht a minimized live midi setup that you can do in the studio, so you can't fully show your potential, and this is why programmers wimp out and don't meet the challenge of doing something live on stage: they might look less slick than on their records. So they play their records, or their dats or cdrs or harddrives (and they insult their audience in this way, IMHO)
quoted 1 line pretty damn amazing from a technical point of view. i had no idea an> pretty damn amazing from a technical point of view. i had no idea an
quoted 1 line super-wicked drum programming coming out of a rather 'plain' machine.> super-wicked drum programming coming out of a rather 'plain' machine.
The RY-30 isn't so plain, though, as you can record changes to pitch, filter, pan between oscs/waves, and decay length in each of the drum sequences you make, so the sounds morph within the pattern of the drum beat. This has only ever been matched in the last few years' x0x-box craze (mc303, mc505, jomox, korg er-1). Also, and most amazing of all, any drum sound can be altered in any of its' settings while the beat is still playing. If you are organized in your approach with this box, you can program it to send 2 kits out each of its 4 outputs and essentially have 4 parallel drum patterns of the same length at once, each with a seperate mixer channel/efx.
quoted 3 lines incredible, incredible, incredible... basically, they were stepping> incredible, incredible, incredible... basically, they were stepping > through sequences and noodling around with the effects in real time. > (while making some adjustments to the nord and virus...)
Ihough I only have found two of their 12"s I liked enough to buy, I would definitely go see them now, especially knowing that they really might be composing live and not just a laptop with their recordings on harddrive. It's inspiring to hear that their are people still playing live sets... solenoid