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Kelley Hackett
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Tue, 28 Mar 2000 07:22:38 -0500
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(idm) RE: (313) NY Times Electronic Article
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Haaa....haaa.........U said it fella!..... and its damn funny how this Hawtin got mentioned without any of the other Giants, who are AFRICAN AMERICAN! Of course as you mentioned, what should we expect from the times......ohhh but I better not get controversial........booooo hoooo or the list will ignore me.....(of course I am sure this is the way many of you are in real life.....)! Hk! -----Original Message----- From: hans kaufmann [mailto:Hansolo_sf@excite.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2000 2:25 PM To: Diana Potts; johbus@allmusic.com; idm@hyperreal.org; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) NY Times Electronic Article It's almost annoying to see so many posts on a lame ass NY Times article. We all have noticed how utterly retarted the "Rave" scene has become (or always was in my opinion). But Techno (and all ther sub-genres because I refuse to use that god forsaken Electronica word) in general is now an officially established ass sucking mainstream phenomenom and it has been progressing that way for years. And if you'll take a short look back into history you'll see what occurs whenever any music based "Scene" become a mainstream chunk of popular culture (punk, Disco, even late 80's Hair metal). YOU GET SHIT AND IT DIES OFF INTO OBSCURITY! The desperation and the heart are lost from the music and all the bandwagon hoppers make it annoying for the "old schoolers" to go out to hear what they love. Money and record labels have forced it's way into it and it's impossible for any of us to go see if say Jeff Mills still has it or if he sucks now (I'm curious) but his goddamn fees are too much, so I doubt I'll ever know. Who the fuck cares if so and so get's the recognition they deserve, they are artists and the fact that there is this list devoted to knowing what color every Detroit Dj's shoe's were at such and such show should let you know that they get true recognition from those who know. FUCK the Mainstream Media-it's all lies anyway. Fuck the suck ass Dj's and Producer's who get huge off a name or a cheesy MTV track (or showing some tit like DJ Rap). I'm gettin annoyed as fuck by hearing a shitty jungle track on every car commercial or Pantene Pro V's House tracks. But hey it's ultra popular and the quality is dying for the sake of quantity and you'll keep gettin more and more nostalgic. I could go on bitching forever but won't cause I have to work. So in Closing Fuck the New York Times. Instead of bitching on this list why don't we go write the truth and spread it. Otherwise just sit back and watch it all suck worse and worse until you wake up one day telling you kids what is was like to be a Raver in the 90's (like your friends Hippy mom did about the 60's) Hans On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 08:57:32 PST, Diana Potts wrote:
quoted 2 lines ...seems like a good 'first baby steps' kinda article. my only beef is> > ...seems like a good 'first baby steps' kinda article. my only beef is
that
quoted 1 line the author decided on Basement Jaxx as the highlight artist for> the author decided on Basement Jaxx as the highlight artist for
house...IMO
quoted 1 line Basement Jaxx's tracks have less soul in their pinkie finger compared to> Basement Jaxx's tracks have less soul in their pinkie finger compared to
the
quoted 2 lines likes of KDJ, Terrence Parker or even the early Jon A./Definitive> likes of KDJ, Terrence Parker or even the early Jon A./Definitive > Tracks...not to mention planetE releases. But perhaps those are left
better
quoted 1 line untouched/tainted. Not to mention, with all due respect to Mr.Hawtin,> untouched/tainted. Not to mention, with all due respect to Mr.Hawtin,
there
quoted 2 lines are OTHER detroit techno artists besides the said 4 and> are OTHER detroit techno artists besides the said 4 and > him...coughAlanOldham...and others that its about time people learned
about.
quoted 16 lines 1month&coutning> > 1month&coutning > Diana > > > > > > > > George Bush Jr. is a moron > ::icq::30793657 > aol::pottsdia > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >
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