Re: (idm) regarding orbital and idm in general (lenghty)
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Alex Reynolds wrote:
quoted 8 lines I am talking about music; in particular, social aspects of this type of> I am talking about music; in particular, social aspects of this type of
> music and its fan base. I think it merits discussion; I would like to
> know other's viewpoints as well. It is very interesting to me that an
> artform by mostly white artists that borrows heavily from mostly black
> artists has a description that effectively states: "All other forms of
> (dance) music are unintelligent." Moreover, I've heard few
> acknowledgments of those artists who created the samples used by, and
> which have inspired IDM artists.
the thing that strikes me is the importance put on being innovative or
retro...
so 'intelligent' ain't the most humble remark about your own musical
preference,
but still this here term should be seen as a distinction of this kind of
music from movements like goa/trance/euro and similes.. which we
probably could agree on being more about losin your head than keepin it
clear.
i've only been into idm-style music for 2 years or so, but i think
there's an evident
development towards using musical background such as
jazz/funk/soul/blues in a innovative sense... while temporary
music-styles such as euro clearly has a development based on sales and
mtv, it seems to me idm ain't afraid of using things way past while
still thinkin' ahead.
the racial aspect could probably have something to do with white males,
such as myself, recently came into music styles like jazz and the others
mentioned above. don't u think?
for me it seems quite evident that it isn't our natural territory.. at
least middle/north european majorities have been lookin for their
musical identity in styles such as guitar based rock (in various shapes)
with diversions into punk, synth/electro..
while americans probably had more of a varied background. i think the
search for an identity and a musical niche is a strong aspect here...
i don't think many of us grew up with a large quantity of the kinds of
music we're moving into now (i might be wrong though). i think retro
into jazz/funk/soul is appealing because we haven't had much contact
with it before. and innovation is lovely, dontchathink? personally i
could work up a sweat just as easy to a dj playin' trance/techno as to
one playing more innovative or 'intelligent' stuff, if not easier. but i
wouldn't listen to the stuff at home. thass why i consider idm equipped
with some brains. and why should there be offense in calling music made
solely for moving your feet 'dumb'?
of course it is.
..oops. lengthy. oh well, u read it or u don't.
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Oskar Andersson aka Dj Mono
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