quoted 10 lines Hey Ross, I have heard Download, and consider them miles away from the>> Hey Ross, I have heard Download, and consider them miles away from the
>> cheesy old Industrial matadors still crankin' the tunes out their
>> ass'. And what not. I still think all the records on Reload, Peacefrog,
>> RePHLeX, and Detroit style sounds are miles ahead of Download. It's all
>> linear, and the front of the line is definitely not Industrial.
>
> What a screwed up view of music. The linear model is just about the worst
> one possible. It's not a line. It's not even a tree. It's a big freaky
> acyclic graph or something with vectors criss-crossing each other like
> stoned spaghetti.
Exactly. The sonic palette is wide, and a palette is a big round thingy
that sweeps out in all dimensions. Linear my arse.
That said, I'm still somewhat inclined to agree with the original poster
about Reload/RePHLeX vs. Download, although it's somewhat of an apples to
oranges comparison (plus, I haven't heard "The Eyes Of Stanley Pain" yet, so
I can't rightly judge). But that comes from my own personal biases, they
strike me as being still back in the Chaos and Industrial camps but sticking
their toes into the Techno waters, whereas I kept wishing they'd follow
Dwayne's lead and leave the past behind and dive in head-first. On the
other hand, I've yet to hear a single Techno record - even FSoL's - that's
produced anywhere near as well as the Download recordings. People who
could care less should borrow the Download CDs from someone just to listen
to the sonic quality of the production, if nothing else.
And speaking of people I'd wished dived into Techno head-first ...
quoted 11 lines Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich> Meat Beat Manifesto - Subliminal Sandwich
>
> This is two CDs just jam-packed with exceptional noises. Better than every
> so-called "trip hop" release on Ninja Tune and Mo'Wax put together. With
> over 140 mins of music included, I don't even know where to begin. Disc 1
> is more on the uptempo tip, with fantastic beats and stoney basslines all
> over the place. Vocals are nowhere near as prominent here as they are on
> previous MBM releases. Disc 2 is just plain fucked up weird shit. Laid
> back techno experiments, 13-minute freakout pieces... Yow. Seriously Out
> There. After the disappointment of "Satyricon" this one is back on form...
> Way back.
I should have mentioned it before, but the current issue of "Future Music"
(June) has a "Subliminal Sandwich" track ("Electric People") on the
obligatory CD/CD-ROM. Great to hear Jack finally embrace Techno
whole-heartedly (at least in part; I heard "Asbestos Lead Asbestos" in a
store and wasn't taken with it ... although that *is* a cover song, so ... ).
There's a sample weaving through it that bugs me, but otherwise it's great
to hear a MBM Techno track. (Especially after going to so many raves lately
with lots of Tr*p H*p/Phunky stuph that sounds like it all had Meat Beat for
a Dad.) Really looking forward to Organic now ... y'all come down, y'hear?
- Greg