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Wed, 24 May 1995 19:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: Plastikman?
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AH'ers who cringe at 303 stuff, please press "n" (or equiv for skipping) now sorry...but On Wed, 24 May 1995 Babylon909@aol.com wrote:
quoted 6 lines I think not.....Richie Hawtin is a fucking genius. The things he thinks to> > I think not.....Richie Hawtin is a fucking genius. The things he thinks to > do with a 303 are a total mindfuck. Believe me, I have a 303, and I have > absolutley no idea whatsoever how he manages to get it to do the things he > does. Very, VERY few people are able to create the kind of grooves he > creates with it. Very few people.
I think the Plastikman stuff is merely ok, maybe a great tool for dj's, but 'few people are able to create the kind of grooves he creates...' Uh, Bzzzt, I don't think so. I program 2x606's 2x101's and a 303 and many other on-board step-sequencers (like a *lot* of people) and I must say that Hawtin is often just programming straightforward overlaps of different pattern lengths, which sounds great, but ain't that difficult. He probably discovered the virtues of it via the remove-the-batteries approach to getting random sequences on the 303. He and his label have further pioneered that stripped-down x0x usage to a, well, even more stripped-down aesthetic which I definitely get into sometimes. Hawtin has excellent taste in tweaking timbres (esp the Fuse LP + Train Tracs), but does not do terribly complicated programming on his 303 from what I've listenned to outside of those Warp releases. If you want to hear painstaking 303 programming, listen to the band Imagination from '81-82, they programmed the 303 for *entire* songs, not just patterns and key changes, but bridges, unique accents etc. Suffice it to say, they *never* tweaked it to sound like acid-style zipping: they just used it to sound like what it was designed to be -- a bass (for a bass-less band). Boring, but a ton more programming was done and a better understanding of the sequencer than for much of what is on Plus 8. However, the Plus 8 artists have taken the *timbre* to new heights and pioneered the aesthetic for that techno "acid" sound. For a Sly & Family Stone bass lick, try this: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 C1 C3 F1 C#1 F1 D#1 A#1 G#1 F#1 D#1 C2 D#2 D#1 AU DS DS DS A DS S DS AS (R) AD S (R) AD S (R) C1 C3 F1 F1 F2 G#1 F1 C2 C#1 F1 D#1 C2 AU DS (R) D AS (H) A DS AS (R) AD S (R) AD DS US A=ACCENT, D=DOWN OCTAVE, U=UP OCTAVE, S=SLIDE ON, R=REST, H=HOLD Experiment with notes 2,3,4, & 7 having the gate held on also Enter these is as goddam-16th-notes merely! Psh! WARNING: This sounds like a funk bass gtr, heh heh heh!! That's right, mr-peace-pipe-808, this is Rock Music! Ok, so why after a couple years on AH, is *nobody* entering in their fave step sequences?!?!?!?!? Don't you program?... or do you covet 'riffs'? ;) THEN, tweak the acid timbres %-) "Blood in the Mug that I'm drinkin' from..." (sung to Love is the Drug - RM) David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)301-3011 grep -i casio goodwillbins >> mystudio ; grep -i atari goodwillbins >> mystudio ;