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quoted 4 lines I have been trying to contact the

> I have been trying to contact the > artist named Treesleeper...I need > to get his email address...So if > any of you have it, please email me.

Speaking of which, does anyone know whether Johnny Goon's email address changed or if perhaps he simply fell off the face of the earth? I'd been exchanging emails with him about putting out a couple of his self-released CD-R tracks on a 7" and then one day (a few months ago?) the replies just stopped. I realize it's hardly the least professional behavior ever exhibited by an artist, but it's frustrating nonetheless. We're about to do our next 7" series and I'd pretty much written him off, but then I saw this Treesleeper email and figured it can't hurt to try. So if you know of any new email address for him, please let me know what it is. And if his email hasn't changed and you're in contact with him, tell him to check his inbox! Thanks. JG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

i just downloaded the updated version of limewire, which might have been a mistake, as now it says something like "we do not have a license for this track, do you still want to download it?".... how unsafe is this? i'm scared. heck, i just want some more OOIOO tracks... so sue me! i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative world? _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Arovane is playing in Portland Ore. on August 19 and I would love to contact him about playing Seattle on August 23 (at our Oscillate weekly--Great club and great sound!!!!) I know it's last minute, but it would be very cool to make this happen! Anyone know an easy way to get a hold of him? cheers, electrosect --------------------------------- Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

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quoted 2 lines i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative

> i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative > world?

Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P -- Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running on os x. much safer in my opin. - xnlb On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote:

quoted 17 lines nat hawks wrote:

> nat hawks wrote: > > i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative > > world? > > Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music > studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P > > -- > Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria > .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... > np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I usually try this simple 3 step method. 1: walk into record store. 2: make selection. 3: give money to cashier. very safe, and easy! or, try this.... 1: navigate your browser to archive.org 2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. 3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. that works well too. -cory ------------------------------------- audio @ myosound.com On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote:

quoted 37 lines if you hunt around on the slsk forums: > if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ > you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running > on os x. much safer in my opin. > > - xnlb > > On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: >> nat hawks wrote: >>> i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative >>> world? >> >> Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music >> studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P >> >> -- >> Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria >> .......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... >> np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > -- > > > - xenlab > - http://www.ezrpm.com/ > - http://www.xnlb.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also buy a lot of music and pay to see a lot of shows... lets not get into that (i think we can hopefully all agree that filesharing without the artists' concent is downright theft and is wrong, but most of us are probably not the problem, as this group tends to hugely support live and recorded music, we just want to hear everything), but thanks for the archive.org link, i'd never actually gone there. and found this right off the bat... http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=bedroombrain&collectionid=BB009 i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you were 'caught' filesharing? has anyone heard of this actually happening to anyone? should i be wary of using limewire anymore, really? does a swat team come to your house?

quoted 67 lines From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com>

>From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:05:53 -0400 > >I usually try this simple 3 step method. > >1: walk into record store. >2: make selection. >3: give money to cashier. > >very safe, and easy! > >or, try this.... > >1: navigate your browser to archive.org >2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. >3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. > >that works well too. > >-cory > > >------------------------------------- >audio @ myosound.com > > >On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote: > >>if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ >>you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running >>on os x. much safer in my opin. >> >>- xnlb >> >>On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: >>>nat hawks wrote: >>>>i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative >>>>world? >>> >>>Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music >>>studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P >>> >>>-- >>>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria >>>.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... >>>np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) >>> >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >> >> >>-- >> >> >>- xenlab >>- http://www.ezrpm.com/ >>- http://www.xnlb.com/ >> >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >>

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well, there was all of the hoopla a few years ago with the lawsuits and whatnot but i don't know what's going on with that anymore, the public lost interest. i think you just get a court ordered summons to go get picked on by riaa people. they surround you and poke you with sticks until you say you're sorry, then they demand 20 grand or something. or not, i don't know anymore. the thing is, with most of the music that...umm...nerds like all of us listen to, we're not going to run into trouble with filesharing because most of the music we are into is not in the riaa umbrella. so unless the particular artist or label comes after you you are pretty much in the clear i figure. thoughts? and i'm not saying thoughts about the pros and cons of file sharing, we all know that tired old argument and everyone is going to do what they want. joshua. On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:53:59 -0400, nat hawks wrote

quoted 9 lines yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also

> yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also > buy a lot of music and pay to see a lot of shows... lets not get > into that (i think we can hopefully all agree that filesharing > without the artists' concent is downright theft and is wrong, but > most of us are probably not the problem, as this group tends to > hugely support live and recorded music, we just want to hear > everything), but thanks for the archive.org link, i'd never actually > gone there. and found this right off the bat... > http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?

collection=bedroombrain&collectionid=BB009

quoted 81 lines i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you were

> > i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you were > 'caught' filesharing? has anyone heard of this actually happening > to anyone? should i be wary of using limewire anymore, really? > does a swat team come to your house? > > >From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:05:53 -0400 > > > >I usually try this simple 3 step method. > > > >1: walk into record store. > >2: make selection. > >3: give money to cashier. > > > >very safe, and easy! > > > >or, try this.... > > > >1: navigate your browser to archive.org > >2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. > >3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. > > > >that works well too. > > > >-cory > > > > > >------------------------------------- > >audio @ myosound.com > > > > > >On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote: > > > >>if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ > >>you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running > >>on os x. much safer in my opin. > >> > >>- xnlb > >> > >>On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: > >>>nat hawks wrote: > >>>>i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative > >>>>world? > >>> > >>>Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music > >>>studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria > >>>.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... > >>>np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >> > >>- xenlab > >>- http://www.ezrpm.com/ > >>- http://www.xnlb.com/ > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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so, if i'm trying to download some Prurient or Discordance Axis i'm fine.... it'll be when i jokingly go to download "invisible touch" that the cuffs'll come on... does anybody on the list (if such a person exists on earth) have an idea about what the situation really is? i imagine they're going after bootleggers directly. it's hard not be paranoid about such things these days...

quoted 131 lines From: "josh23" <josh23@acre-c.com>

>From: "josh23" <josh23@acre-c.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:44:14 -0700 > >well, there was all of the hoopla a few years ago with the lawsuits and >whatnot but i don't know what's going on with that anymore, the public lost >interest. i think you just get a court ordered summons to go get picked on >by riaa people. they surround you and poke you with sticks until you say >you're sorry, then they demand 20 grand or something. or not, i don't know >anymore. the thing is, with most of the music that...umm...nerds like all >of >us listen to, we're not going to run into trouble with filesharing because >most of the music we are into is not in the riaa umbrella. so unless the >particular artist or label comes after you you are pretty much in the clear >i figure. > >thoughts? and i'm not saying thoughts about the pros and cons of file >sharing, we all know that tired old argument and everyone is going to do >what they want. > >joshua. > >On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:53:59 -0400, nat hawks wrote > > yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also > > buy a lot of music and pay to see a lot of shows... lets not get > > into that (i think we can hopefully all agree that filesharing > > without the artists' concent is downright theft and is wrong, but > > most of us are probably not the problem, as this group tends to > > hugely support live and recorded music, we just want to hear > > everything), but thanks for the archive.org link, i'd never actually > > gone there. and found this right off the bat... > > http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php? >collection=bedroombrain&collectionid=BB009 > > > > i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you were > > 'caught' filesharing? has anyone heard of this actually happening > > to anyone? should i be wary of using limewire anymore, really? > > does a swat team come to your house? > > > > >From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > > >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... > > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:05:53 -0400 > > > > > >I usually try this simple 3 step method. > > > > > >1: walk into record store. > > >2: make selection. > > >3: give money to cashier. > > > > > >very safe, and easy! > > > > > >or, try this.... > > > > > >1: navigate your browser to archive.org > > >2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. > > >3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. > > > > > >that works well too. > > > > > >-cory > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------- > > >audio @ myosound.com > > > > > > > > >On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote: > > > > > >>if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ > > >>you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running > > >>on os x. much safer in my opin. > > >> > > >>- xnlb > > >> > > >>On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: > > >>>nat hawks wrote: > > >>>>i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative > > >>>>world? > > >>> > > >>>Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music > > >>>studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P > > >>> > > >>>-- > > >>>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- >Austria > > >>>.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt >"L-A-I-N"....... > > >>>np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) > > >>> > > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >>-- > > >> > > >> > > >>- xenlab > > >>- http://www.ezrpm.com/ > > >>- http://www.xnlb.com/ > > >> > > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on > > how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >joshua. >-- >I'm all ABOUT adding kissing to the mix! It's what i do best. - t-rex >http://www.acre-c.com/josh23 >http://www.spacepiratemusic.com >http://www.communikey.us > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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i'm sure the limewire thing is just lime group (founded and owned by a bunch of bankers) covering their legal backs after the morpheus/ grokster case - if they tell you not to do something the labels' lawyers can't argue they told you to do it. they're playing safe with the threats too - they're going after people with a few thousand tracks in their shared directories. so not downloading, but the exclusive right of making available, which has been tightened up a bit in the last few years. i don't think any cases have yet gone through the courts - people have paid the protection money and promised to obey henceforth. i think the courts might want to take a very close look at what 'reasonable' means in how much someone's privacy should be compromised to protect avril lavigne's warblings, and how much damage has actually, not potentially been caused. on the other hand they might all be fascist pigs in league with the media/entertainment/ military masonic brotherhood and hand down the maximum $150,000 per infringement to every single mom they can round up, which on the complete 'now that's what i call alt-rock' mp3 collection is a tidy sum... cheerio paul state51 On 18 Aug 2005, at 20:36, nat hawks wrote:

quoted 179 lines so, if i'm trying to download some Prurient or Discordance Axis i'm

> so, if i'm trying to download some Prurient or Discordance Axis i'm > fine.... it'll be when i jokingly go to download "invisible touch" > that the cuffs'll come on... > > does anybody on the list (if such a person exists on earth) have an > idea about what the situation really is? i imagine they're going > after bootleggers directly. > > it's hard not be paranoid about such things these days... > > > >> From: "josh23" <josh23@acre-c.com> >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... >> Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 11:44:14 -0700 >> >> well, there was all of the hoopla a few years ago with the >> lawsuits and >> whatnot but i don't know what's going on with that anymore, the >> public lost >> interest. i think you just get a court ordered summons to go get >> picked on >> by riaa people. they surround you and poke you with sticks until >> you say >> you're sorry, then they demand 20 grand or something. or not, i >> don't know >> anymore. the thing is, with most of the music that...umm...nerds >> like all of >> us listen to, we're not going to run into trouble with filesharing >> because >> most of the music we are into is not in the riaa umbrella. so >> unless the >> particular artist or label comes after you you are pretty much in >> the clear >> i figure. >> >> thoughts? and i'm not saying thoughts about the pros and cons of file >> sharing, we all know that tired old argument and everyone is going >> to do >> what they want. >> >> joshua. >> >> On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:53:59 -0400, nat hawks wrote >> > yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also >> > buy a lot of music and pay to see a lot of shows... lets not get >> > into that (i think we can hopefully all agree that filesharing >> > without the artists' concent is downright theft and is wrong, but >> > most of us are probably not the problem, as this group tends to >> > hugely support live and recorded music, we just want to hear >> > everything), but thanks for the archive.org link, i'd never >> actually >> > gone there. and found this right off the bat... >> > http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php? >> collection=bedroombrain&collectionid=BB009 >> > >> > i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you >> were >> > 'caught' filesharing? has anyone heard of this actually happening >> > to anyone? should i be wary of using limewire anymore, really? >> > does a swat team come to your house? >> > >> > >From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> >> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org >> > >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... >> > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:05:53 -0400 >> > > >> > >I usually try this simple 3 step method. >> > > >> > >1: walk into record store. >> > >2: make selection. >> > >3: give money to cashier. >> > > >> > >very safe, and easy! >> > > >> > >or, try this.... >> > > >> > >1: navigate your browser to archive.org >> > >2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. >> > >3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. >> > > >> > >that works well too. >> > > >> > >-cory >> > > >> > > >> > >------------------------------------- >> > >audio @ myosound.com >> > > >> > > >> > >On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote: >> > > >> > >>if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http:// >> forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ >> > >>you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and >> running >> > >>on os x. much safer in my opin. >> > >> >> > >>- xnlb >> > >> >> > >>On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: >> > >>>nat hawks wrote: >> > >>>>i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the >> creative >> > >>>>world? >> > >>> >> > >>>Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a >> music >> > >>>studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P >> > >>> >> > >>>-- >> > >>>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz >> --- Austria >> > >>>.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I- >> N"....... >> > >>>np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) >> > >>> >> > >> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------ >> --- >> > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>-- >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>- xenlab >> > >>- http://www.ezrpm.com/ >> > >>- http://www.xnlb.com/ >> > >> >> > >> >>------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> > >> >> > >> > _________________________________________________________________ >> > On the road to retirement? 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quoted 1 line we just want to hear everything

> we just want to hear everything

isn't that the truth. me llammo completist, xnlb On 8/18/05, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 93 lines yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also buy a lot

> yes, i've downloaded thousands of tracks from limewire, but i also buy a lot > of music and pay to see a lot of shows... lets not get into that (i think we > can hopefully all agree that filesharing without the artists' concent is > downright theft and is wrong, but most of us are probably not the problem, > as this group tends to hugely support live and recorded music, we just want > to hear everything), but thanks for the archive.org link, i'd never actually > gone there. and found this right off the bat... > http://www.archive.org/audio/audio-details-db.php?collection=bedroombrain&collectionid=BB009 > > i'm wondering though... what exactly could happen to you if you were > 'caught' filesharing? has anyone heard of this actually happening to > anyone? should i be wary of using limewire anymore, really? does a swat > team come to your house? > > > >From: Cory O'Brien <myo.sound@gmail.com> > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... > >Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 13:05:53 -0400 > > > >I usually try this simple 3 step method. > > > >1: walk into record store. > >2: make selection. > >3: give money to cashier. > > > >very safe, and easy! > > > >or, try this.... > > > >1: navigate your browser to archive.org > >2: select from 1000's of creative commons licensed web labels. > >3: download music untill you run out of harddrive space. > > > >that works well too. > > > >-cory > > > > > >------------------------------------- > >audio @ myosound.com > > > > > >On Aug 18, 2005, at 10:48 AM, egyptian zombie robot wrote: > > > >>if you hunt around on the slsk forums: http://forums.slsknet.org/ipb/ > >>you can find info on getting alternative slsk clients up and running > >>on os x. much safer in my opin. > >> > >>- xnlb > >> > >>On 8/17/05, Kurt Bernhard Pruenner <leak@gmx.at> wrote: > >>>nat hawks wrote: > >>>>i run OSX, is there a better, safer solution to robbing the creative > >>>>world? > >>> > >>>Wearing a hook, peg leg, eyepatch and parrot while robbing a music > >>>studio seems safer than dealing with The Man(TM) to me... :P > >>> > >>>-- > >>>Kurt Bernhard Pruenner --- Haendelstrasse 17 --- 4020 Linz --- Austria > >>>.......It might be written "Mindfuck", but it's spelt "L-A-I-N"....... > >>>np: Richard Devine - Arc-Acid (Cautella) > >>> > >>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >>-- > >> > >> > >>- xenlab > >>- http://www.ezrpm.com/ > >>- http://www.xnlb.com/ > >> > >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >>For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to > get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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http://www.eff.org/IP/P2P/MGM_v_Grokster/ I'd say there is a safe bet that although, according to the obtuse rulings of the supreme court, most of these p2p networks can now be sued into non-existence. However, considering the nature of p2p, both the software and the network are already setup and distributed, so there efforts are mostly [IMO] in vain. I would just say be weary of what folders you consider sharing on any network, especially if you are worried about the RIAA witch hunt. IMO limewire/slsk have become the best outlets for creative discovery as of late anyway. OH, and go to your local independent music store and check the used racks as well......if the horrible .mp3 sound doesn't fit your goat. d From: "nat hawks" <natbot@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] limewire safety question... Message-ID: <BAY104-F2972033A8FBAA48CA44CA1CDB20@phx.gbl> so, if i'm trying to download some Prurient or Discordance Axis i'm fine.... it'll be when i jokingly go to download "invisible touch" that the cuffs'll come on... does anybody on the list (if such a person exists on earth) have an idea about what the situation really is? i imagine they're going after bootleggers directly. it's hard not be paranoid about such things these days...