IDM Mailing Archive

-- -- The Record Industry Faces the Music http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=529&category=features "...The music industry sees file sharing as a threat to its interests; it clearly believes that if you can’t afford to listen to music then you shouldn’t be listening to it. The music industry is not interested in music per se, but in what makes the most profits..." -- -- Pietro@IglooMag.com // -- IGLOO::Mag :: Exp. Electronic E'zine // -- http://IglooMag.com :: Editor@IglooMag.com P.O. Box 443, Orange, CA, 92856 // -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Man, I've just been at this seminar [ by http://www.musically.com ]in a posh London Law Firm all about Music Licensing on the Internet with players from major labels and boy do they so not get the internet. It was so evident it was about they money for a lot of them, whereas for other it was about survival. It was most definitely not about the music. on 16/10/03 9:33 pm the person going by the name pietrobot at pietrobot@digitalnimbus.com spake :

quoted 23 lines -- --

> -- -- > The Record Industry Faces the Music > http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=529&category=features > > "...The music industry sees file sharing as a threat > to its interests; it clearly believes that if you can’t > afford to listen to music then you shouldn’t be > listening to it. The music industry is not interested > in music per se, but in what makes the most profits..." > -- -- > > Pietro@IglooMag.com > // -- > IGLOO::Mag :: Exp. Electronic E'zine // -- > http://IglooMag.com :: Editor@IglooMag.com > P.O. Box 443, Orange, CA, 92856 // -- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I was at the same seminar. I'm the person that Jim Griffen, ex CEO of Geffen Records was talking about who organises the London "pho" dinners. Pho is a newsgroup that has a lot of high profile lurkers including lawyers, mobile, WIFI, dotcoms, vps of new media, publishers, A&R types, BBC, and most everyone from the online legit subscription/ala carte download community. For the last two years, I've met a lot of people on the pho list who are record company execs in high places who do know what time it is. And are frustrated by all of the issues that have been tying their hands. There are people at indie labels who also know what's happening. Denton Wilde Sapte are one of Europes best known intellectual property law firms - you can find readable news on their website - although you might not agree with everything that was said by the people on the panel - at least it got those people talking. That's all I'm going to say and the above opinions represent my own views. nH At 10:00 pm +0100 16/10/03, Muffin wrote:

quoted 18 lines Man, I've just been at this seminar [ by >Man, I've just been at this seminar [ by http://www.musically.com ]in a posh >London Law Firm all about Music Licensing on the Internet with players from >major labels and boy do they so not get the internet. It was so evident it >was about they money for a lot of them, whereas for other it was about >survival. It was most definitely not about the music. > >on 16/10/03 9:33 pm the person going by the name pietrobot at >pietrobot@digitalnimbus.com spake : > >> -- -- >> The Record Industry Faces the Music >> http://igloomag.com/doc.php?task=view&id=529&category=features >> >> "...The music industry sees file sharing as a threat >> to its interests; it clearly believes that if you can’t >> afford to listen to music then you shouldn’t be >> listening to it. The music industry is not interested > > in music per se, but in what makes the most profits..."

--------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I buy and search for music revelations online. I am ever in the quest for the most comprehensive electronica/IDM site in the online world. I have my favorites,: - For finding info on artists and generally good links to similar artists, I turn to Epitonic.com. - For vinyl, Boomkat.com has it down. - Warp.com has also quite an extensive collection of artists even beyond their label, but in their same realm of sorts. What are your favorites? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 17 Oct 2003 at 9:02, Brandon wrote:

quoted 2 lines allmusicguide.com has a surprisingly complete database of tons of

> allmusicguide.com has a surprisingly complete database of tons of > different artists across any genre that you can think of.

I'm happy to second that - AMG is a wonderful source of information, tracklists, labels & publishing year, reviews, background info, cross- referencing, cover art... it's all there. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawrencelessig/ this guy is probably the smartest person in US now, just think about it along the lines that technical progress fully depends on how much green light WEB will get from the government. And file sharing will most likely be the major type of transaction in our human civilization pretty soon the sooner the better __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

yeah I took a class with Lawrence Lessig @ Harvard summer of 2002 - the Berkman Center for Internet Law & Society. However, shortly after, Lessig lost the Eldred case in front of the Supreme Court. And he's written 2 very deep books on Code. Anyone interested in the latest academic thinking on copyright post Napster - here: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/home/ and look on the right hand side for the GartnerG2 Report. nH (apologies for the otness of this post) At 9:51 pm -0700 17/10/03, svin wrote:

quoted 14 lines

>http://www.livejournal.com/users/lawrencelessig/ > >this guy is probably the smartest person in US >now, >just think about it along the lines that >technical progress fully depends on how much >green light WEB will get from the government. > >And file sharing will most likely be the major >type of transaction in our human civilization >pretty soon > >the sooner the better >

-- http://www.ninjatune.net http://www.bigdada.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: cDawn <cdawg@brokenbeat.com> Reply-To: cdawg@brokenbeat.com Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:57:54 -0700 (PDT)

quoted 2 lines I buy and search for music revelations online.

>I buy and search for music revelations online. >I am ever in the quest for the most comprehensive

electronica/IDM site in the

quoted 4 lines online world.

>online world. >I have my favorites,: > >- For finding info on artists and generally good links to similar

artists, I turn

quoted 3 lines to Epitonic.com.

>to Epitonic.com. >- For vinyl, Boomkat.com has it down. >- Warp.com has also quite an extensive collection of artists even

beyond their

quoted 1 line label, but in their same realm of sorts.

>label, but in their same realm of sorts.

i like to listen to the sound samples on all of those, but then i buy at forced exposure. anyone know of any other good places that offer short soundclips of electronic music? not p2p or download sites. d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 17/10/03 6:22 pm the person going by the name chthonic at chthonic@chthonicstreams.com spake :

quoted 24 lines ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------

> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: cDawn <cdawg@brokenbeat.com> > Reply-To: cdawg@brokenbeat.com > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 08:57:54 -0700 (PDT) > >> I buy and search for music revelations online. >> I am ever in the quest for the most comprehensive > electronica/IDM site in the >> online world. >> I have my favorites,: >> >> - For finding info on artists and generally good links to similar > artists, I turn >> to Epitonic.com. >> - For vinyl, Boomkat.com has it down. >> - Warp.com has also quite an extensive collection of artists even > beyond their >> label, but in their same realm of sorts. > > i like to listen to the sound samples on all of those, but then i buy > at forced exposure. > > anyone know of any other good places that offer short soundclips > of electronic music? not p2p or download sites.

A lot of Leaf stuff can be found on posteverything.com, but it's dodgy realaudio. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org