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2003-03-11 22:28Scott Sinfield [idm] indie ethics
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2003-03-11 22:28Scott SinfieldAnother consideration... Indie labels are not adverse to ripping artists off. They are unf
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Another consideration... Indie labels are not adverse to ripping artists off. They are unfortunately not all as uncorrupt as we'd perhaps ike to believe. We (Portal) have lost more revenue through being ripped off by small indie labels than we ever have by file sharing, mp3 etc. Honestly, how many bands that are discussed on this list are effected by "pirating"? Not many, I'd imagine. Speaking as a musician, if anyone cares enough about our music to copy and distribute it more widely, then I'm pleased that more people may get to hear it. I heard most music I got into by taping things from my local record library. It opened my eyes to music like Coil, Kraftwerk and Cindytalk - bands whose records I simply couldn't afford to buy when I was 14 or 15. Also, mass "illegal" copying and duplication I'm sure has sod all impact on the likes of Sony, EMI, Virgin. Arguably, the "pirates" need the money more... Scott PORTAL www.portal.freeuk.com MAKE MINE MUSIC portal*yellow6*schengen*epic 45*innerise*july skies*avrocar www.makeminemusic.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-03-11 22:51"kiya \"i am a copier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Sinfield <portal@freeuk.com> > Honestly, how many
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quoted 2 lines Honestly, how many bands that are discussed on this list are effected by> Honestly, how many bands that are discussed on this list are effected by > "pirating"? Not many, I'd imagine.
huh? you nuts? you know how many people i know that download complete albums as mp3s from idm artists on every label from planet-u to warp to plug research and never buy a damn thing? a lot. i personally don't download shit, i buy everything, but i've always been like that.... i also would rather wait to buy a release than to download it two months early as an mp3, but that's a different story... -kiya iamacopierltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-03-11 23:12Josh Steinerkiya "i am a copier" babzani wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Scott Sinfield <p
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kiya "i am a copier" babzani wrote:
quoted 15 lines ----- Original Message ----->----- Original Message ----- >From: Scott Sinfield <portal@freeuk.com> > > > >>Honestly, how many bands that are discussed on this list are effected by >>"pirating"? Not many, I'd imagine. >> >> > >huh? >you nuts? >you know how many people i know that download complete albums as mp3s from idm artists on every >label from planet-u to warp to plug research and never buy a damn thing? a lot. >
so what? if i download every album ever released, it still affects noone's bottom line. i buy what i can afford and the number of mp3z i download doesnt impact that at all. thereis a compelling argument that in fact it strengthens many artists bottom line since i dont randomly buy cd's of music i dont already know anymore (having been burned too many tiems by crappy "product") ... i can't even count how many albums i've bought purely because i downloaded *gasp* whole albums from slsk. i am not alone.
quoted 4 lines i personally don't download shit, i buy everything, but i've always been like th>i personally don't download shit, i buy everything, but i've always been like that.... >i also would rather wait to buy a release than to download it two months early as an mp3, but that's >a different story... >
cool, more power to ya :)
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