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2002-12-18 16:17Albers, Brian RE: [idm] Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
├─ 2002-12-18 17:10[idm] Yes (was re: Sigur Ros)
│ └─ 2002-12-19 08:04Irene McC [idm] yes indeed
└─ 2002-12-18 22:01Justin Lovero RE: [idm] Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
└─ 2002-12-18 22:22Neil Walsh Re: [idm] Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
└─ 2002-12-18 23:34Justin Lovero Re: [idm] Sigur Ros (was re: Year-End Mini-Reviews)
2002-12-18 17:52donna summer Re: [idm] Yes (was re: Sigur Ros)
2002-12-18 20:14Aaron D Meyers Re: [idm] Yes (was re: Sigur Ros)
2002-12-18 20:27tom weibrecht Re: [idm] Yes (was re: Sigur Ros)
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2002-12-18 16:17Albers, Briannew Sigur Ros album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than "()"
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new Sigur Ros album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine anything more boring than "()" I've never been much of a fan, but a friend was raving about a recent live show of theirs and put on the cd. It sounded to me like nothing more than re-hashed Pink Floyd with all the prog-rock symphonic trappings. One song even had the exact same chord progression of Stairway to Heaven.
2002-12-18 17:10adam@damek.orgQuoting "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@premiereradio.com>: > > new Sigur Ros > > re-hashed Pink
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Quoting "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@premiereradio.com>:
quoted 5 lines new Sigur Ros> > new Sigur Ros > > re-hashed Pink Floyd with all the prog-rock symphonic trappings. One > song > even had the exact same chord progression of Stairway to Heaven.
Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think it obvious that Yes is the better band! -Adam --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-12-19 08:04Irene McCOn 18 Dec 2002 at 11:10, adam@damek.org wrote: > Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone
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On 18 Dec 2002 at 11:10, adam@damek.org wrote:
quoted 2 lines Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think it> Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think it > obvious that Yes is the better band!
Hahaha!!!! You'll probably get publicly beaten for that, but I must say that I thoroughly agree. Being a dinosaur, I grew up with those bands and was hugely into Yes (oh come one people, Roundabout is wonderful!) and never bought a single Pink Floyd album after Relics. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-12-18 22:01Justin LoveroI totally agree; () is terrible. I have been a huge Sigur Ros fan ever since I saw them li
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I totally agree; () is terrible. I have been a huge Sigur Ros fan ever since I saw them live at Coachella a few years back. Their first album was a fucking masterpiece. SOmeone here criticized "Agaetis..." for being a collection of songs and not a cohesive album. Even if I thought that was true, and I don't think it is, I wouldn't care. The songs on "Agaetis..." were beautifully crafted. They had great melodies, stunning arrangemets, and they evolved over time. Sigur Ros clearly had a lot of great ideas and executed those ideas with great skill when making that album. (), on the other hand, is boring, shoe-gazer, prog-rock. Instead of writing great songs, Sigur Ros has elected to bludgeon their listeners with mopey, repetitive dirges that all sound more or less the same. Worse yet, nearly all of these songs were fully formed and played during their 2001 tour. So, not only is () a bad album, it is a bad album that most Sigur Ros fans had already heard before it was released. Most bands play their songs live before they are relased on an album, but take the time in the studio to develop and experiment with those songs. Not so with (). () is far and away the most disappointing album of the year. --- "Albers, Brian" <BAlbers@premiereradio.com> wrote:
quoted 16 lines new> > new > Sigur Ros > album. What a complete waste! I can't imagine > anything more boring > than "()" > > I've never been much of a fan, but a friend was > raving about a recent live > show of theirs and put on the cd. It sounded to me > like nothing more than > re-hashed Pink Floyd with all the prog-rock > symphonic trappings. One song > even had the exact same chord progression of > Stairway to Heaven. >
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2002-12-18 22:22Neil WalshOn Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:01:10PM -0800, Justin Lovero wrote: > I totally agree; () is te
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 02:01:10PM -0800, Justin Lovero wrote:
quoted 4 lines I totally agree; () is terrible. I have been a huge> I totally agree; () is terrible. I have been a huge > Sigur Ros fan ever since I saw them live at Coachella > a few years back. Their first album was a fucking > masterpiece.
When you say first album here, I assume you're talking about Von? Von was far from a masterpiece. It had a couple of great songs on it but overall it was a bit too random for my liking. If however you are talking about AB as the first album, then maybe you aren't the huge Sigur Ros fan you think you are. Anyway () is my favourite album of the year, but like all great things it's impossible to pinpoint why exactly. It's alot more focused than AB was, with a nice split between they "happy" half and the "heavy" half. The songs themselves more then stand up to those on AB, and I really don't see how people can say opposite. Track 8 is one of the best things I've heard. I love the way it changes from having a nice, dreamy guitar line to just being a monster of a track. Track 2 is another great one, great melody and it sounds like it should have a huge epic ending but in the end it just fades away beautifully into Track 3, which is another one I like greatly despite it's simplicity. I could go on, but I don't think I'm going to change anyone's opinion here. But I think the AB vs. () debate is alot like the Music Has The The Right to Children vs. Geogaddi debate, Geogaddi has the better songs, but nothing can compare to the magic of hearing songs like Rogybiv, Olson or Aquarius for the first time. Neil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-12-18 23:34Justin Lovero--- Neil Walsh <marvin@Redbrick.DCU.IE> wrote: > When you say first album here, I assume y
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--- Neil Walsh <marvin@Redbrick.DCU.IE> wrote:
quoted 8 lines When you say first album here, I assume you're> When you say first album here, I assume you're > talking about Von? Von was far > from a masterpiece. It had a couple of great songs > on it but overall it was a > bit too random for my liking. If however you are > talking about AB as the first > album, then maybe you aren't the huge Sigur Ros fan > you think you are.
I know that Von was the first album. In fact, I own Von. You're right, It just skipped my mind. I should have said last album instead of first album. My bad.
quoted 3 lines Anyway () is my favourite album of the year, but> Anyway () is my favourite album of the year, but > like all great things it's > impossible to pinpoint why exactly. etc... etc...
I was really harsh on () in my previous post. I actually like it in spots too. Tracks 2, 3, and 4 are pretty good. Song 8, "Pop Song", has a great ending, but the first 6 minutes are dull as hell. I have been pretty brutal to () simply because it's so disappointing. If it didn't have to follow AB, I would probably view it as an "okay" album. It doesn't hold a candle to AB, though. The songs just aren't nearly as strong. JMHO.
quoted 7 lines But I think the AB vs. () debate is alot like the> But I think the AB vs. () debate is alot like the > Music Has The The Right to > Children vs. Geogaddi debate, Geogaddi has the > better songs, but nothing can > compare to the magic of hearing songs like Rogybiv, > Olson or Aquarius for the > first time.
That's a pretty good comparison in some ways. However, MHTRTC and Geogaddi are not terribly different soundwise, whereas AB and () are quite different. I was pretty shocked at how stripped down () was compared to AB. I miss the lush arrangements with keys, guitar, strings, bass, drums, vocals, brass, etc. Oh well. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-12-18 17:52donna summer>Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think >it >obvious tha
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quoted 3 lines Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think>Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I should think >it >obvious that Yes is the better band!
Well they are just different, it's not like they had a battle of the prog bands to see which was the prog-y-est! While they both did quite a bit to explore the possibilities of song structure, etc, they were also after different types of sound. Why not just love both? They both fucking rule! ( by the way just got "Wish you were here" yesterday! HA!) DS _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-12-18 20:14Aaron D MeyersSpeaking of prog-rock, I've been listening to quite a bit of Genesis' Lamb Lies Down on Br
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Speaking of prog-rock, I've been listening to quite a bit of Genesis' Lamb Lies Down on Broadway lately. If you have a taste for the prog-rock and this one missed you, you MUST check it out. Peter Gabriel's last album with Genesis where he basically single-handedly wrote the most bizarre concept album ever. Its about the story of Puerto Rican graffiti artist, Rael, who goes on a ridiculous drug inspired/addled adventure/nightmare that along the way includes an orgy with a bunch of vampires and a dramatic chase scene where Peter Gabriel/Rael must chase after his own dick through an avalanche. I like Pink Floyd. I haven't heard to much Yes. But I don't think either of them managed something quite like that. -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: donna summer <donnasummerwfmu@hotmail.com> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:52 pm Subject: Re: [idm] Yes (was re: Sigur Ros)
quoted 29 lines Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I> > >Speaking of prog-rock, why does everyone like Pink Floyd? I > should think > >it > >obvious that Yes is the better band! > > Well they are just different, it's not like they had a battle of > the prog > bands to see which was the prog-y-est! While they both did quite a > bit to > explore the possibilities of song structure, etc, they were also > after > different types of sound. > Why not just love both? They both fucking rule! ( by the way just > got "Wish > you were here" yesterday! HA!) > DS > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-12-18 20:27tom weibrechtOn Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:14:34 -0500 Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu> writes: > Speaking of p
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 15:14:34 -0500 Aaron D Meyers <adm226@nyu.edu> writes:
quoted 15 lines Speaking of prog-rock, I've been listening to quite a bit of Genesis'> Speaking of prog-rock, I've been listening to quite a bit of Genesis' > Lamb Lies Down on Broadway lately. If you have a taste for the > prog-rock and this one missed you, you MUST check it out. Peter > Gabriel's last album with Genesis where he basically single-handedly > wrote the most bizarre concept album ever. Its about the story of > Puerto Rican graffiti artist, Rael, who goes on a ridiculous drug > inspired/addled adventure/nightmare that along the way includes an > orgy with a bunch of vampires and a dramatic chase scene where Peter > Gabriel/Rael must chase after his own dick through an avalanche. > > I like Pink Floyd. I haven't heard to much Yes. But I don't think > either of them managed something quite like that. > > -Aaron >
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