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2002-11-30 04:03jeremy gray [idm] new plaid video/album / scientology ?
└─ 2002-11-30 08:28Chispas De Muerte Re: [idm] new plaid video/album / scientology ? Naquoiquatsi
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2002-11-30 04:03jeremy graythere is a new plaid video to download off the front page news at www.warprecords.com , an
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there is a new plaid video to download off the front page news at www.warprecords.com , and news of a new album on dvd. anyway, on the video, there are questions which come up on screen eg "do others describe you as cold?" and these questions are all found in the scientology free personality test (http://www.scientology.org/oca.htm) are they trying to copy boc and their branch davidian references, or just following john travolta. peace _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-30 08:28Chispas De MuerteYeah I remember that video from seeing thier live show last fall maybe? I remember it havi
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Yeah I remember that video from seeing thier live show last fall maybe? I remember it having the effect of making my body writh and contort spasmodically in a rythmic fashion. Or maybe that was the music. There are some interesting images there, the american flag, the sniper, bush and gore shaking hands, the school bus (number 23 for all you conspiracy buffs!) and then the american flag bundled up in barbed wire, plus all the questions flashed on the screen. Maybe Plaid are big scientologists, or maybe they are appropriating contrasting images, juxtaposing them to produce a really cool piece of art that makes you feel funny, emotions that are indistinct but strong. I'm trying to remember if that show was before or after sept. 11th, I remember it bieng right around that time, maybe they were referencing that or maybe- and wouldnt it be wierd, it was made BEFORE sept. 11th. Anyways I like stuff like that. On a semi off topic note, has anyone seen Naqoiquatsi, the new film by Godfrey Reggio? Its a kind of assemblage of all these images, with a score by Phillip Glass. The Plaid video work kind of reminds me of that in a wierd way. --- jeremy gray <jeremyc_gray@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 19 lines there is a new plaid video to download off the front> > > there is a new plaid video to download off the front > page news at > www.warprecords.com , and news of a new album on > dvd. > anyway, on the video, there are questions which come > up on screen eg "do > others describe you as cold?" and these questions > are all found in the > scientology free personality test > (http://www.scientology.org/oca.htm) > are they trying to copy boc and their branch > davidian references, or just > following john travolta. > peace > > >
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2002-12-03 00:04hjhChispas De Muerte, > Yeah I remember that video from seeing thier live show > last fall ma
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Chispas De Muerte,
quoted 14 lines Yeah I remember that video from seeing thier live show> Yeah I remember that video from seeing thier live show > last fall maybe? I remember it having the effect of > making my body writh and contort spasmodically in a > rythmic fashion. Or maybe that was the music. There > are some interesting images there, the american flag, > the sniper, bush and gore shaking hands, the school > bus (number 23 for all you conspiracy buffs!) and then > the american flag bundled up in barbed wire, plus all > the questions flashed on the screen. Maybe Plaid are > big scientologists, or maybe they are appropriating > contrasting images, juxtaposing them to produce a > really cool piece of art that makes you feel funny, > emotions that are indistinct but strong. I'm trying to > remember if that show was before or after sept. 11th,
[...] Just downloaded it, nice one. My favourite track from 'Double Figure'. Long nice build-up to 4:16 where it takes a sudden turn with some lushy lush vocals. I'm not a conspiracy buff.. so what's up with 23? By the way, those questions are from a test used by Scientologists, but it's also used by others (consulting firms and such(!)). The questions are meant to make you feel queasy, of course. The test was originally known as "American Personality Analysis", before it was adopted by the scientologs. Fits well with the "us theme" of the video. Some of the questions (and 'answers'): 'would you like to "start a new activity" in the area that you live?' Followed by a sniper loading his gun. 'do you tend to put off things and then discover it's too late?' Followed by George Bush jr. shaking hands with Al Gore. 'do you consider that you could give a valid "snap judgement"?' Followed by the sniper, getting ready to shoot. Can't imagine this going down well in the us right now. Definately un-american :) regards, hj --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org