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2002-11-03 00:40Micah L. Silver [idm] Performative Context of IDM - better sort it out before worrying about the future -
2002-11-03 01:13cj Re: [idm] Performative Context of IDM - better sort it out before worryingabout the future -
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2002-11-03 00:40Micah L. Silverthe future of IDM? given the lack of distribution/audience/venues/etc. what do people real
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the future of IDM? given the lack of distribution/audience/venues/etc. what do people really mean by The Future? the aesthetic evolution of the music? certainly there has been a fairly step-by-step complication into irrational subdivision, initiated by either the advent of sequencers (Logic) that can quantize to 196th note triplets, or non-lattice constructive methods using fractions of time, abandoning meter all together (though this is on the extreme and some might begin to question how IDM something is if they can never find a strong beat as opposed to a few weaker ones). frankly, if one wants to play ones music within the context, broad as it may be, of dance-electronica, one either references that cannonized form or must abandon it and find a new context with which to present one's creative output. a prime example of this effect is Anthony Braxton, who brought the methods of Stockhausen, et. al, into the world of Jazz in a very personal way - He found some sucess and toured with his quartets/quintets/etc. and was even supported by Arista Freedom until he wrote a composition for three orchestras playing in swivelly office chairs - anyway, in the past thirty years the man has found himself with no context except odd-fitting improvised music / free-jazz festivals in europe - how is this related to IDM? how can people except a genre that generated itself from a perfomative dance context to survive and evolve without a new performative context ? is the new context each of our individual bedrooms - to be listened to alone and discussed via electronic communications only, and maybe with a few friends in the area who are also interested in the same General area of sounds ? this seems like a dead end to me unless one acknowledges this as the context and then writes music for that specifically. until this issue of context is sorted out there is only a blurry future. i hope others have some ideas for how to evolve this situation. what about Rural IDM ? ? :) micah silver micahsilver.org musicapopular.micahsilver.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-11-03 01:13cjthe future can't be thought of. it doesnt exist yet. it is quite absurd to think that by a
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Re: [idm] Performative Context of IDM - better sort it out before worryingabout the future -
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the future can't be thought of. it doesnt exist yet. it is quite absurd to think that by anticipating what doesnt exist one could bring it about sooner! a synthesis of past things can be discussed. but someone, somewhere is charting new territory. of course "future of...." something doesnt always mean originality. artist's who are unafraid are the future, what it will sound like is irrelevant. there are artists and there are people who make electronic music. there is a BIG difference. silvers points are spot on. cj "Micah L. Silver" wrote:
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