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hi. if you're dj marc elias, and you're on this list, DON'T EVER FUCKING DO THIS AGAIN. this has been happening on various music-related lists a lot recently--if i didn't sign up for your damn list on my own, it means i am NOT INTERESTED. jesus. anyone else get this subscription notice? -rachel (aka dj pie) piesarenice.net -- <marklar> I cried that I had no lever, until I met a man with no fulcrum. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 5 Jul 2002 20:33:08 -0000 From: djmarcelias Moderator <djmarcelias-owner@yahoogroups.com> Reply-To: djmarcelias-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To: piesarenice@underpantsgnomes.com Subject: Welcome to the djmarcelias group Hello, I've added you to my djmarcelias group at Yahoo! Groups, a free, easy-to-use email group service. Yahoo! Groups makes it easy to participate in email discussions, coordinate events, share photos and other files, and more. NOTE: This is an Announcement or Newsletter group, so only the group moderator may post messages. Also, some or all of the web features may be disabled in this group at the moderator's discretion. Here's a description of the group: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the DJ Marc Elias mailing list. Once subscribed to this Yahoo group you will receive invitations to when Marc Elias is performing. Find out about new club,lounge,bar openings. Drink Specials and Free Admission info. Complimentary CD giveaways each month. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Here's my introductory message for you: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If your not interested in listening to the mix or receiving information UNSUBSCRIBE by writing to:>> djmarcelias-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ If you do not wish to belong to the djmarcelias group, you can unsubscribe by replying to this message, or by sending an email to djmarcelias-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Regards, Moderator, djmarcelias SPECIAL NOTE FROM Yahoo! Groups: Because Yahoo! Groups values your privacy, it is a violation of our service rules for moderators to add subscribers to a group against their wishes. If you feel this has happened, please notify us at abuse@yahoogroups.com P.S. If you would like to learn more about the djmarcelias group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/djmarcelias Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 04:49 PM 05/07/02, dj pie wrote:

quoted 7 lines hi. if you're dj marc elias, and you're on this list,

>hi. if you're dj marc elias, and you're on this list, >DON'T EVER FUCKING DO THIS AGAIN. this has been happening >on various music-related lists a lot recently--if i didn't >sign up for your damn list on my own, it means i am NOT >INTERESTED. jesus. > >anyone else get this subscription notice?

I didn't, but here's a tip for everyone who already has their email address(es) registered with YahooGroups: If you go to http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs you'll see a list of your registered address(es). Click the "Options" link next to each of them, and you'll get an options screen. The first option should be "Group Invitations", which I believe is set to "Allow group moderators to directly add me to their groups" by default. Change that to "Allow group moderators to invite me to their groups" - you may still receive annoying invitation messages, but you can just ignore them and you won't be on the list. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 05:27 PM 05/07/02, dj pie wrote:

quoted 12 lines If you go to > > If you go to http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs you'll see a list of your > > registered address(es). Click the "Options" link next to each of them, and > > you'll get an options screen. > > > > The first option should be "Group Invitations", which I believe is set to > > "Allow group moderators to directly add me to their groups" by default. > > Change that to "Allow group moderators to invite me to their groups" - you > > may still receive annoying invitation messages, but you can just ignore > > them and you won't be on the list. > >interesting and useful, but the email address that the subscribed >message was sent to was never registered with yahoo groups...

Oh. Well, never mind then. :)

quoted 2 lines i would assume that this means that yahoo allows you to add non-registered

>i would assume that this means that yahoo allows you to add non-registered >users to your groups at will. gah.

Yeah you can, although it says next to that option on the Invite Members screen to "Use this feature responsibly". I believe you can report list admins who abuse this option to YahooGroups, but I'm not sure what sort of action they'll take. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

That was very very helpful information ! Also FYI, this very discussion was bounced around on the Ambient list just a week ago (or so). It seems misleading but although you have been "added" to someone's discussion group this does not necessarily mean you have been subscribed. Oftentimes you have to actually confirm subscription. I could be wrong about this one though... Shimone/Justes http://www.staticbeats.com | Electronic Music > Digital Culture ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Clow" <greg@stainedproductions.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Welcome to the djmarcelias group (fwd)

quoted 27 lines At 04:49 PM 05/07/02, dj pie wrote:

> At 04:49 PM 05/07/02, dj pie wrote: > > >hi. if you're dj marc elias, and you're on this list, > >DON'T EVER FUCKING DO THIS AGAIN. this has been happening > >on various music-related lists a lot recently--if i didn't > >sign up for your damn list on my own, it means i am NOT > >INTERESTED. jesus. > > > >anyone else get this subscription notice? > > > I didn't, but here's a tip for everyone who already has their email > address(es) registered with YahooGroups: > > If you go to http://groups.yahoo.com/myprefs you'll see a list of your > registered address(es). Click the "Options" link next to each of them, and > you'll get an options screen. > > The first option should be "Group Invitations", which I believe is set to > "Allow group moderators to directly add me to their groups" by default. > Change that to "Allow group moderators to invite me to their groups" - you > may still receive annoying invitation messages, but you can just ignore > them and you won't be on the list. > > > Greg >

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On Fri, 5 Jul 2002, Static Beats wrote:

quoted 9 lines That was very very helpful information !

> That was very very helpful information ! > > Also FYI, this very discussion was bounced around on the Ambient list just a > week ago (or so). > > It seems misleading but although you have been "added" to someone's > discussion group this does not necessarily mean you have been subscribed. > Oftentimes you have to actually confirm subscription. I could be wrong about > this one though...

yeah, it sure looks to me as though i've been added to their list. there's no confirmation information, just unsubscribe info. i was part of the discussion on the ambient list about this too, and for the record, i think it's plain wrong to abuse email addresses in this way. i've sent my complaint to abuse@yahoogroups, but the person who started this thread on the ambient list did the same thing and never received any sort of response. *shrug* -rachel (obviously cranky today, HI) -- piesarenice.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 05:42 PM 05/07/02, Static Beats wrote:

quoted 4 lines It seems misleading but although you have been "added" to someone's

>It seems misleading but although you have been "added" to someone's >discussion group this does not necessarily mean you have been subscribed. >Oftentimes you have to actually confirm subscription. I could be wrong about >this one though...

You're half-right. When you are a list admin and you want to "invite" someone to join your mailing list, you can either send them an invitation that they have to reply to in order to be subscribed, or you can subscribe them directly. Yahoogroups strongly recommends the former, but provides the latter so you can do stuff like move mailing lists over easily from your personal address book or other mailing list services. On the regular user side - you can choose whether or not you will allow the second method (direct subscription) to be applied to any email addys that you have registered with Yahoogroups. But there is no way to completely stop list admins from inviting you to join their group using the first method. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org