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2002-04-30 21:33production unit [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh)
2002-04-30 23:07Jason Cole FW: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh)
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2002-04-30 21:33production unitI can't recommend any Godflesh - haven't heard any since my misguided and unshorn youth -
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I can't recommend any Godflesh - haven't heard any since my misguided and unshorn youth - but I second the props to Mick Harris. Like the 'flesh, he came out of the Earache/Grindcore scene in the UK, but by some of the accounts here Godflesh returned to it. He's extremely diverse, doing the fucked-up dub dubby/edgy hip hop thing with Scorn, and a million other side projects. The best Scorn things I have are 'Greetings from Birmingham' on Hymen, and the early single 'White Irises Blind' on Earache, the second of which you might like if you're into the older Godflesh stuff (from what I can remember of 'Streetcleaner'). Saw him performing with Surgeon as Certain Beyond All Reasonable Doubt a few years back, and it was mighty good - just massive black sheets of heavy noise, with a tiny undercurrent of barely detectable, almost orchestral tonality. I don't know of any releases by them, though. Also, I just got an album of industrial drum and bass he did on Quartermass as Quoit. It's very similar to the things he did with Eraldo Bernocchi on what I think was the Quantum 484 label, and stuff I believe he was affiliated to on the Possible Recs label. Not for the faint hearted. And the Autechre remix of Scorn is superb! As you can tell, I like him. A lot. What label is the Lull stuff on? Cheers, Papa D marciablaine.cjb.net available: s/t e.p. on Dalriada inclusion on Benbecula "Music Volume 2" The Marcia Blaine School Disco Vol. 1 forthcoming: inclusion on Law & Auder "I Am:Bient" inclusion on Struktur compilation "Red Zero Seven"
quoted 22 lines Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700 >To: "'Albers, Brian'" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com>, idm@hyperreal.org >From: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com> >Subject: RE: [idm] r.i.p. godflesh >Message-ID: <9C8BF7974FCDD411B2D500A0CC51B7591DD5C4@CORESERVER> > >------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F06E.5A08F750 >Content-Type: text/plain > >Along the same lines. Anyone on this list into Scorn? I believe that it's >Mick Harris from Napalm Death and some other guy. Really dark dub type >stuff. A little less intense than Godflesh. Also, Mick Harris has an >ambient >project called Lull. Super dark ambient music. I dig it. >Sucks that Godflesh broke up. I got my friend's copy of Songs of Love and >Hate. Never got to give it back to him before he passed away. Can anyone >suggest a few other Godflesh albums for me to check out? > >Thanks, > >Jason >
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-----Original Message----- From: Jason Cole Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:08 PM To: 'production unit' Subject: RE: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) I can't seem to find out what label the Lull releases were on on the net. And I don't have the cds with me. But it seems like there's a bunch of info about Lull on http://www.mickharris.net Lull is so beautifully dark. I listen to one of the cds I own almost every night before I go to sleep. Rock on. Jason Lull - Cold Summer Harris already had two Lull efforts under his belt by the time Cold Summer surfaced, but this packed-to-the-brim disc was easily the pinnacle of his efforts up to that point, four lengthy songs that more than anything else justified the "isolationism" tag that surfaced at the time to describe chilled, cool ambient. Comparison points to the work of Thomas Kvner and Main in particular work here, and in some respect Lull finds a particular balance between both, combining the sense of hushed alien landscapes from the former with the obsessive focus on rhythm from the latter. It's easy enough to hear the connection to Scorn as well, with the chief difference being the lack of any drums or conventional rhythm loops, but with the focus strictly and solely on the slowly evolving textures and looped tones instead of beats, Lull achieves its own identity instead of simply being a Scorn remix, say. As much as the album title, the song names capture the atmospheres at play -- "Slow Fall Inward," "Lonely Shelter," "Long Way Home," "Lost Sanctum." The songs don't start and stop so much as solely waft in and drift away, steady and slow progressions that float like ghosts. It's the weird, nagging rhythms almost buried in the flow of drones and muffled, stretched-out chimes and rings, the rising and falling of tones rather than drum hits, which provide the core to the tracks, making the experience more than just background music. Listening almost forces a hush on potential listeners, shot through as the album is with just enough potential threat. It's one heck of a long way from the hyperspeed blur of the earliest Napalm Death records, to be sure, but Cold Summer demonstrates clearly how Harris is very much the master of extremes. ~ Ned Raggett, All Music Guide -----Original Message----- From: production unit [mailto:productionunit@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:34 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org; Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com Subject: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) I can't recommend any Godflesh - haven't heard any since my misguided and unshorn youth - but I second the props to Mick Harris. Like the 'flesh, he came out of the Earache/Grindcore scene in the UK, but by some of the accounts here Godflesh returned to it. He's extremely diverse, doing the fucked-up dub dubby/edgy hip hop thing with Scorn, and a million other side projects. The best Scorn things I have are 'Greetings from Birmingham' on Hymen, and the early single 'White Irises Blind' on Earache, the second of which you might like if you're into the older Godflesh stuff (from what I can remember of 'Streetcleaner'). Saw him performing with Surgeon as Certain Beyond All Reasonable Doubt a few years back, and it was mighty good - just massive black sheets of heavy noise, with a tiny undercurrent of barely detectable, almost orchestral tonality. I don't know of any releases by them, though. Also, I just got an album of industrial drum and bass he did on Quartermass as Quoit. It's very similar to the things he did with Eraldo Bernocchi on what I think was the Quantum 484 label, and stuff I believe he was affiliated to on the Possible Recs label. Not for the faint hearted. And the Autechre remix of Scorn is superb! As you can tell, I like him. A lot. What label is the Lull stuff on? Cheers, Papa D marciablaine.cjb.net available: s/t e.p. on Dalriada inclusion on Benbecula "Music Volume 2" The Marcia Blaine School Disco Vol. 1 forthcoming: inclusion on Law & Auder "I Am:Bient" inclusion on Struktur compilation "Red Zero Seven"
quoted 22 lines Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700>Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700 >To: "'Albers, Brian'" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com>, idm@hyperreal.org >From: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com> >Subject: RE: [idm] r.i.p. godflesh >Message-ID: <9C8BF7974FCDD411B2D500A0CC51B7591DD5C4@CORESERVER> > >------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F06E.5A08F750 >Content-Type: text/plain > >Along the same lines. Anyone on this list into Scorn? I believe that it's >Mick Harris from Napalm Death and some other guy. Really dark dub type >stuff. A little less intense than Godflesh. Also, Mick Harris has an >ambient >project called Lull. Super dark ambient music. I dig it. >Sucks that Godflesh broke up. I got my friend's copy of Songs of Love and >Hate. Never got to give it back to him before he passed away. Can anyone >suggest a few other Godflesh albums for me to check out? > >Thanks, > >Jason >
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2002-05-01 05:53"\\\"Alan R. Lockett\\\"" <aloc8145@mail.usyd.edu.au>I don't know how _Cold Summer_ can be discussed without reference to Lustmord, whose relea
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I don't know how _Cold Summer_ can be discussed without reference to Lustmord, whose releases such as _Heresy_ and _The Place Where the Black Stars Hang_ have clearly been a major influence on Mick Harris's Lull project. Lustmord also did a very evocative droney drifty dark ambient collaboration with Robert Rich called _Stalker_ (inspired by the Tarkovsky movie of the same name), which might appeal to Lullophiles. Nothing much to do with idm, but it seemed worth mentioning. alan/beyond...sound Quoting Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com>:
quoted 129 lines -----Original Message-----> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Cole > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:08 PM > To: 'production unit' > Subject: RE: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) > > I can't seem to find out what label the Lull releases were on on the net. > And I don't have the cds with me. But it seems like there's a bunch of info > about Lull on http://www.mickharris.net > Lull is so beautifully dark. I listen to one of the cds I own almost every > night before I go to sleep. > Rock on. > > Jason > > Lull - Cold Summer > > Harris already had two Lull efforts under his belt by the time Cold Summer > surfaced, but this packed-to-the-brim disc was easily the pinnacle of his > efforts up to that point, four lengthy songs that more than anything else > justified the "isolationism" tag that surfaced at the time to describe > chilled, cool ambient. Comparison points to the work of Thomas Kvner and > Main in particular work here, and in some respect Lull finds a particular > balance between both, combining the sense of hushed alien landscapes from > the former with the obsessive focus on rhythm from the latter. It's easy > enough to hear the connection to Scorn as well, with the chief difference > being the lack of any drums or conventional rhythm loops, but with the > focus > strictly and solely on the slowly evolving textures and looped tones > instead > of beats, Lull achieves its own identity instead of simply being a Scorn > remix, say. As much as the album title, the song names capture the > atmospheres at play -- "Slow Fall Inward," "Lonely Shelter," "Long Way > Home," "Lost Sanctum." The songs don't start and stop so much as solely > waft > in and drift away, steady and slow progressions that float like ghosts. > It's > the weird, nagging rhythms almost buried in the flow of drones and muffled, > stretched-out chimes and rings, the rising and falling of tones rather than > drum hits, which provide the core to the tracks, making the experience more > than just background music. Listening almost forces a hush on potential > listeners, shot through as the album is with just enough potential threat. > It's one heck of a long way from the hyperspeed blur of the earliest Napalm > Death records, to be sure, but Cold Summer demonstrates clearly how Harris > is very much the master of extremes. ~ Ned Raggett, All Music Guide > > -----Original Message----- > From: production unit [mailto:productionunit@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:34 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org; Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com > Subject: [idm] Scorn (was Godflesh) > > I can't recommend any Godflesh - haven't heard any since my misguided and > unshorn youth - but I second the props to Mick Harris. Like the 'flesh, he > came out of the Earache/Grindcore scene in the UK, but by some of the > accounts here Godflesh returned to it. > He's extremely diverse, doing the fucked-up dub dubby/edgy hip hop thing > with Scorn, and a million other side projects. > The best Scorn things I have are 'Greetings from Birmingham' on Hymen, and > the early single 'White Irises Blind' on Earache, the second of which you > might like if you're into the older Godflesh stuff (from what I can > remember > > of 'Streetcleaner'). > Saw him performing with Surgeon as Certain Beyond All Reasonable Doubt a > few > > years back, and it was mighty good - just massive black sheets of heavy > noise, with a tiny undercurrent of barely detectable, almost orchestral > tonality. I don't know of any releases by them, though. > Also, I just got an album of industrial drum and bass he did on Quartermass > > as Quoit. It's very similar to the things he did with Eraldo Bernocchi on > what I think was the Quantum 484 label, and stuff I believe he was > affiliated to on the Possible Recs label. Not for the faint hearted. > And the Autechre remix of Scorn is superb! > As you can tell, I like him. A lot. > > What label is the Lull stuff on? > > Cheers, > Papa D > > > marciablaine.cjb.net > available: > s/t e.p. on Dalriada > inclusion on Benbecula "Music Volume 2" > The Marcia Blaine School Disco Vol. 1 > forthcoming: > inclusion on Law & Auder "I Am:Bient" > inclusion on Struktur compilation "Red Zero Seven" > > > >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:42:08 -0700 > >To: "'Albers, Brian'" <BAlbers@PremiereRadio.com>, idm@hyperreal.org > >From: Jason Cole <Jason.Cole@DigitalMediaWorks.com> > >Subject: RE: [idm] r.i.p. godflesh > >Message-ID: <9C8BF7974FCDD411B2D500A0CC51B7591DD5C4@CORESERVER> > > > >------_=_NextPart_001_01C1F06E.5A08F750 > >Content-Type: text/plain > > > >Along the same lines. Anyone on this list into Scorn? I believe that it's > >Mick Harris from Napalm Death and some other guy. Really dark dub type > >stuff. A little less intense than Godflesh. Also, Mick Harris has an > >ambient > >project called Lull. Super dark ambient music. I dig it. > >Sucks that Godflesh broke up. I got my friend's copy of Songs of Love and > >Hate. Never got to give it back to him before he passed away. Can anyone > >suggest a few other Godflesh albums for me to check out? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Jason > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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