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2002-03-21 17:31Michael Morris [idm] hey.... this song is great
2002-03-21 20:16Sprek Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great
└─ 2002-03-22 02:13Dr. Gozra Von Peebles Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great ++ [shifted about 67 degrees from its origin]]
2002-03-22 14:32donna summer Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great ++ [shifted about 67 degrees from its origin]]
├─ 2002-03-22 15:49Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great ++ [shifted about 67 degrees from its origin]]
└─ 2002-03-22 20:01ugly and mean Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great ++ [shifted about 67 degrees from its origin]]
2002-03-23 00:59donna summer Re: [idm] hey.... this song is great ++ [shifted about 67 degrees from its origin]]
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2002-03-21 17:31Michael MorrisThe track is called 'Fuck Off' It's a remix of the obre track by umbromaniii except I only
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The track is called 'Fuck Off' It's a remix of the obre track by umbromaniii except I only use some of the vocals, the rest is all new......... http://www.ampcast.com/michaelm........ it's a fast drum'n'bass track.... similar to Squarepusher. I've deleted all my old songs so this new one don't get lost in a sea of shite. Goodbye http://www.ampcast.com/michaelm go and check it out --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-21 20:16Sprek"I'm gonna be changing my garage into a studio soon so I'll be able to work properly and g
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"I'm gonna be changing my garage into a studio soon so I'll be able to work properly and get rid of shit like Fruityloops." wuts wrong with fruityloops? and if its "shit liek fruityloops", why do you use it? obvioulsy, there is sometihng you like about it, if you use it. Dont let the hype bring you down, fruityloops is the shit. sprek:keith http://spit.to/onesick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Morris" <contact@mozonline.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2002 9:31 AM Subject: [idm] hey.... this song is great
quoted 3 lines The track is called 'Fuck Off'> The track is called 'Fuck Off' > > It's a remix of the obre track by umbromaniii except I only use some of
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quoted 1 line vocals, the rest is all new.........> vocals, the rest is all new.........
http://www.ampcast.com/michaelm........
quoted 16 lines it's a fast drum'n'bass track.... similar to Squarepusher.> it's a fast drum'n'bass track.... similar to Squarepusher. > > I've deleted all my old songs so this new one don't get lost in a sea of > shite. > > Goodbye > > http://www.ampcast.com/michaelm > > go and check it out > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2002-03-22 02:13Dr. Gozra Von PeeblesThe only thing wrong with fruityloops is its name. I've torn across just about every piece
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The only thing wrong with fruityloops is its name. I've torn across just about every piece of software and none come close to what fruityloops can do for certain aspects of creating music. Of course I don't have my own studio, but I consider my work to be much better than most "professional" releases. I'm not at all full of myself when I say this, but rather direct in what I want in composition. I think that's why many many followers of this genre make their own music. It is more or less set to a certain level of "specific taste" and thus attracts a following of listeners who know exactly what they want from music. Couple this with the availability of a slew of music making tools available to the average computer user [of this nature] and anyone can really become involved in their own music collection. Rebuild the music of others they find so appealing, and, with the help of a good sound editor, with the same quality. This of it this way: if a group of people are trying to model, say, Black Sabbath, what are the odds that their garage demo will hold the same "sound" of the real band? With the technology that is most often necessary to construct this 'idm', the 'sound' is already lived up to, by default, and the attention can be entirely focused on technique and exploring what the composer individually desires out of their music. I find it to be a very personal genre. Which brings me [finally] to my point: Why do people bother to set up "official" labels to release this sort of music on? Doesn't it seem like a tremendous amount of money goes into making everything official *looking* when the genre, lets face it, isn't about making money or about image at all? Shit, this isn't hip-hop here. Big Pimpin? Now I haven't heard every single one of Fennesz's tracks, but I highly doubt he ever gives props to his "high rollers" and "bitches" in between the clicks and bleeps of his composition. Well, Cex does, but thats really beside the point. And I read interviews with countless composers who basically say: "Share it, burn it, mix it, sample it, enjoy it........just don't claim it as your own [unless you contribute to it] or profit from it." Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio quality as official cd's from a factory ordered by [insert indie idm label name here] in "250 pressing" amounts. Does anyone really give a damn if the next planet mu cd they order has a blue image or a silver image on its back? Pressed or burned? I don't want the next electric company release to look pretty or be packaged like nine inch nails 57th album...ahem, excuse me, "halo". In the age of cdrs, music releases can cost about $.50 to create. Sell them for $5.00 or even $10 at shows, as long as its a solid work, and make a much more deserved profit. Cover art? Go release a book. All I really care about are the names of the tracks on the release. Thanks for reading. gzvp --- Sprek <sprek@soundmangle.com> wrote:
quoted 13 lines "I'm gonna be changing my garage into a studio soon> "I'm gonna be changing my garage into a studio soon > so I'll be able to work > properly and get rid of shit like Fruityloops." > > wuts wrong with fruityloops? and if its "shit liek > fruityloops", why do you > use it? obvioulsy, there is sometihng you like about > it, if you use it. Dont > let the hype bring you down, fruityloops is the > shit. > > sprek:keith > http://spit.to/onesick
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2002-03-22 14:32donna summer>This of it this way: if a group of people are trying >to model, say, Black Sabbath, what
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quoted 9 lines This of it this way: if a group of people are trying>This of it this way: if a group of people are trying >to model, say, Black Sabbath, what are the odds that >their garage demo will hold the same "sound" of the >real band? >With the technology that is most often necessary to >construct this 'idm', the 'sound' is already lived up >to, by default, and the attention can be entirely >focused on technique and exploring what the composer >individually desires out of their music.
I totally agree, but I think the better artists out their work just as hard to define their sound in a similar way... This music isn't by any means created in a vacuum.
quoted 4 lines Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio>Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio >quality as official cd's from a factory ordered by >[insert indie idm label name here] in "250 pressing" >amounts.
While the difference may not be great there is, allegedly, a difference when it comes to permanence. Also some older CD players can't read CDR's the same, or may not recognize the disk on repeated listenings. I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get distribution, and 2. get people to buy your work, as CDR's could equal not so good. maybe this will change? -donna _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-22 15:49MxyzptlkA >>Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio >>quality as official cd's from a f
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quoted 4 lines Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio>>Cdrs, as far as I can tell, contain the same audio >>quality as official cd's from a factory ordered by >>[insert indie idm label name here] in "250 pressing" >>amounts.
quoted 3 lines While the difference may not be great there is, allegedly, a difference>While the difference may not be great there is, allegedly, a difference >when it comes to permanence. Also some older CD players can't read CDR's >the same, or may not recognize the disk on repeated listenings.
----------- While this is true, it is also the case that older players sometimes will not recognize "professionally made" CDs. The problem with universal readability vis a vis cdrs isn't about permanence at all, but rather the quality of the laser in low grade/older playback units. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-22 20:01ugly and mean> I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get > distribution, > and 2. ge
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quoted 6 lines I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get> I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get > distribution, > and 2. get people to buy your work, as CDR's could equal not so good. > maybe > this will change? > -donna
I'd personally love to see internet bedroom rockers get together and form internet groups or labels. Work independently of each other, but maintain the association with the collective. Like a gaming clan or a Mod/Demo crew. Count the HTML guy and the multimedia guy as parts of the group, too. I guess it's even further from the original thread, but it's something I'd love to see happen. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? http://movies.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-03-23 00:59donna summerI agree! Maybe you should start such a group? I'm sure people will support you! I will! Do
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I agree! Maybe you should start such a group? I'm sure people will support you! I will! Donna Summer www.cockrockdisco.com
quoted 20 lines I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get> > > > I'm all for the smaller labels, but it can be hard to 1. get > > distribution, > > and 2. get people to buy your work, as CDR's could equal not so good. > > maybe > > this will change? > > -donna > >I'd personally love to see internet bedroom rockers get together and form >internet groups or labels. Work independently of each other, but maintain >the association with the collective. Like a gaming clan or a Mod/Demo >crew. Count the HTML guy and the multimedia guy as parts of the group, >too. I guess it's even further from the original thread, but it's >something I'd love to see happen. > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards? >http://movies.yahoo.com/
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