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2002-01-27 14:30bcayton [idm] Why people love Boards of Canada. . .
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2002-01-27 14:49donna summer Re: [idm] Why people love Boards of Canada. . .
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2002-01-27 14:30bcaytonGeez, all this talk about why people love BoC. Some people worship them and think they wal
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Geez, all this talk about why people love BoC. Some people worship them and think they walk on water, others think they're overrated. What do I think? Well, I'd definitely have to go the Divinity route and say that there music is heaven-sent. And I'll tell you why. No, Music has the Right to Children wasn't the most technological innovative of albums by any means. They didn't boast something like using twelve hundred thousand millions of samples used per track like some 'other' bands I can think of.. Their music isn't layered with waves and waves of glitched out textures, odd mechanical swipes and swirls, fizzing bubbling static, and other forms of pointless tweaked-out DSP fuckery which some think is required in any record before it can be called 'IDM'. I have no idea what kind of gear they use. (Although their music to me has always had a decidedly sort low-tech feel to it, but that doesn't matter. It's part of their charm.) And that brings me to my next point. None of these things matter when you're listening to their music. It isn't relevent. And why isn't it relevent? I can sum it up in one word. Their music has *soul*. It's as simple as that. Right from the opening notes of 'Wildlife Analysis' right down the last drifting chords of 'One Very Important Thought' (and for those of you who have the domestic release, that actually would be 'Happy Cycling'), every track is meaningful, and is conceived in such a way that you couldn't imagine any of the tracks unfolding in any other way than the way that you just heard them. And that is a helluva feat to accomplish. It doesn't take equipment. It takes talent, skill and artistry. And a lot of these so-called IDM artists would do well to take a lesson. Because with a lot of IDM, it's the same thing time and time again. I hear their equipment . . .but I don't hear *them*. I think they need to stop, and ask themselves again 'Why am I making music? What am I trying to say?' The difference with BoC is they know *exactly* what they're trying to say. And to all of us that 'get it', it comes across loud and clear. It isn't about technique, or what gear you're running, or how many thousands of samples per track you're using. It's about where you end up in the end. How you got there is unimportant. Only that you do. And to all those of you out there who don't know what all the hubbub about BoC is, and that maybe in the end that 'Hey, maybe I just don't get it', I say to you this: No. You *don't* get it. But I can only hope that some day you will. And then you come join the rest of us who got it a long time ago, and then that will be a very, very happy day. :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-28 18:40Gabriel J. Weinstock> Their music has *soul*. ok, I think I can safely say I'm coming from the other camp. I w
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quoted 1 line Their music has *soul*.> Their music has *soul*.
ok, I think I can safely say I'm coming from the other camp. I went through a phase in high school where I became obsessed with "soul"-- everything had to have soul to it, the problem was, I had a really hazy idea of what soul actually was. After about 2 months, I realized that whatever soul was, I didn't have it. Also I was white which seems to work counter to having soul. so nowadays, I don't even consider soul when listening to music. It's too vapid. But I'm still as large a fan of BoC as you are. What I look for in music is "good ideas". Where you hear the music, and you hear the musician's thought process, and it's a good idea-- kind of like a good mathematical proof, or a clever implementation of an algorithm. and BoC are just full of good ideas. g. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-27 14:49donna summerThe difference with BoC is they know *exactly* what they're trying to say.? And to all of
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The difference with BoC is they know *exactly* what they're trying to say.? And to all of us that 'get it', it comes across loud and clear. ??? It isn't about technique, or what gear you're running, or how many thousands of samples per track you're using. ??? It's about where you end up in the end.<<< That's increadibly sweet. Even though I "got it" a long while ago then forgot about it, If I ever meet you in person I'm buying you a drink, dude, because you can formulate an argument based on personal conviction. Kudos. Donna Summer _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-27 16:51RichYou contradict yourself, bcayton... 1st : > No, Music has the Right to Children wasn't the
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You contradict yourself, bcayton... 1st :
quoted 8 lines No, Music has the Right to Children wasn't the most technological> No, Music has the Right to Children wasn't the most technological > innovative of albums by any means. They didn't boast something like > using twelve hundred thousand millions of samples used per track like > some 'other' bands I can think of.. > Their music isn't layered with waves and waves of glitched out > textures, odd mechanical swipes and swirls, fizzing bubbling static, and > other forms of pointless tweaked-out DSP fuckery which some think is > required in any record before it can be called 'IDM'.
Okay, so you say thet DIDN'T use twelve million samples, etc... no DSP fooling, etc... 2nd:
quoted 4 lines I have no idea what kind of gear they use. (Although their music> I have no idea what kind of gear they use. (Although their music > to me has always had a decidedly sort low-tech feel to it, but that > doesn't matter. It's part of their charm.) And that brings me to my > next point.
Nope. If you don't know what gear they use, how do you know how they use it? (See point 1). There are little things called facts. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-27 17:07LOWONICE13@aol.comIn a message dated 1/27/02 8:32:10 AM Central Standard Time, bcayton@pacbell.net writes: <
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In a message dated 1/27/02 8:32:10 AM Central Standard Time, bcayton@pacbell.net writes: << Their music has *soul*. It's as simple as that. >> Amen. BOC is on at my house in the morning, during the day, and before bed, I'm still not sick of it. nick --------------------------------- Raoul's Left Ear http://www.geocities.com/raoulsleftear/Intro.html ---------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-01-28 22:17p h o n k----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel J. Weinstock" <gweinstock@citynet.net> > Also
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabriel J. Weinstock" <gweinstock@citynet.net>
quoted 1 line Also I was white which seems to work counter to having soul.> Also I was white which seems to work counter to having soul.
yeah, being green helps a lot :) p.h..o...n....k http://www.phonk.com oo /|\ support / \ mutation --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org