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1995-06-01 21:38Lazlo Nibble Labels
└─ 1995-06-01 22:36ozymandias G desiderata Re: Labels
1995-06-02 15:25allert Re: Labels
1995-06-02 17:35Otto Koppius Re: Labels
└─ 1995-06-05 12:22CiM Re: Labels
2001-03-07 17:54Static Eden [idm] Labels
└─ 2001-03-07 17:34Miwa Okumura Re: [idm] Labels
└─ 2001-03-07 23:15Lee Azzarello Re: [idm] Labels
2001-03-08 08:45Mike Paradinas [idm] Labels
2001-07-02 23:24[idm] labels
2002-01-04 16:11Albers, Brian RE: [idm] labels
└─ 2002-01-04 16:39Adam Piontek RE: [idm] labels
2004-03-10 15:48[idm] labels
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1995-06-01 21:38Lazlo Nibble> Caroline Asteralwerks > Virgin Caroline is a subsidiary of Virgin. > TVT/Wax Trax! Nothi
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Thu, 1 Jun 1995 15:38:44 -0600 (MDT)
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quoted 2 lines Caroline Asteralwerks> Caroline Asteralwerks > Virgin
Caroline is a subsidiary of Virgin.
quoted 1 line TVT/Wax Trax! Nothing (Trent Reznor)> TVT/Wax Trax! Nothing (Trent Reznor)
Is Nothing actually *owned* by TVT/WT, or just distributed through them?
quoted 1 line GE/RCA> GE/RCA
I don't think GE and RCA are related anymore. RCA was bought by BMG quite a while back.
quoted 2 lines Mute> Mute > Nova Mute
Mute is a UK-based indie, distributed through the US through Elektra with a couple of exceptions. NovaMute is a Mute subsidiary. Laz
1995-06-01 22:36ozymandias G desiderataI could be smoking crack again (yeah, I know it's a bad habit) but I coulda sworn Nothing
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Thu, 01 Jun 95 16:36:54 -0600
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I could be smoking crack again (yeah, I know it's a bad habit) but I coulda sworn Nothing was a wholly owned subsidiary of Interscope, which is in turn a subsidiary of Atlantic (which is in turn a subsidiary of...). Trent might still be chained to TVT in one way or another, but I think all of the Nothing stuff is distributed and marketed by Interscope. And what a wonderful label it is, too. And IRS owns none of Network, Nettwerk, or Apollo. As far as I know they've distributed a few Nettwerk releases (primarily Consolidated back in the day) but that's the limit of their involvement with any of those three. Deconstruction is a UK company, who occasionally get distributed over here. As far as I know, they own themselves. And I _thought_ that SOMA was a homegrown Bay Area label, but that's just supposition because I don't have anything to back it up. You also forgot about the whole Geffen / DGC / whatever tangle. And who owns the Medicine label? Isn't this kind of a pointless discussion? It's interesting, because the majors do go to great lengths to hide the fact that their "indie" arms are wholly-owned subsidiaries of a multinational (which makes me ask just how cynical they are), but who cares about major labels when you can get quality domestic tuneage from: - Accelerate - Axis - Analog - C&S / MicMac - Centrifuge - Comatonse - Communique - Dance Mania - Djungle Fever USA - Drop Bass Network - Exist Dance - Experimental - M-Plant - Nervous / Nervous Dog / Sorted - Planet E - Power Music / Sex Trax / Power Trax - Sm:)e (owned by Priority) - Strictly Rhythm / X-Sight Tracks + the Submerge family: - 430 West - Direct Beat - Happy Soul - Generator - Matrix - Metroplex - Red Planet - Shockwave - Teknotika - Underground Resistance - Synewave NY - Transmat - Trax - Ultraviolet - Utensil - Visible - Warehouse In my mind, the whole indie / major distinction is a pretty odious and intangible one. Why make the distinction? Saying there are "major" labels gives them more credit than they're worth. Major marketing, maybe. All of the above are cranking out music that is just as worthy as the majors', and most of them are doing it with a hell of a lot more sincerity and a hell of a lot less attention to the bottom line. just being cranky, ozymandias onNow - DJ ESP - Transporter (made in Motor City, goddamn it!) ozymandias G desiderata personal info : http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/ discographies : http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/aaxz/discogs Missoula raves: http://www.mbc.umt.edu/ogd/aaxz/raves/
1995-06-02 15:25allert>Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was And they releas
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quoted 1 line Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was>Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was
And they released one of the most slammin' idm tracks ever: Slam's Positive Education , my god what a track... Is it still available ? On the CD maybe ? OnNow: Mekanik Kommando - Bay the Moon (dutch mid eighties 'Lectronic Listenin Musick) Allert Aalders - Big Time Concepts - allert@knoware.nl - allert@riv.nl why not check http://www.riv.nl/yuliana - a Bio Boostin' Music server shape on IRC - mostly on #digistad
1995-06-02 17:35Otto KoppiusOn Thu, 01 Jun 95 16:36:54 -0600, ozymandias G desiderata <ogd@selway.umt.edu> wrote: >And
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On Thu, 01 Jun 95 16:36:54 -0600, ozymandias G desiderata <ogd@selway.umt.edu> wrote:
quoted 2 lines And I _thought_ that SOMA was a homegrown Bay Area label, but that's just>And I _thought_ that SOMA was a homegrown Bay Area label, but that's just >supposition because I don't have anything to back it up.
Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was an article on them in DJ Magazine about two years ago, that's when I first heard of them). Two or three months ago they released an album called something like 'Soma Quality Recordings 1990-1995'. I'll try to find the original article (room's a bit of a mess, so it'll be difficult) and put some highlights on IDM. Otto Koppius On now : Tresor III
1995-06-05 12:22CiMOn Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Otto Koppius wrote: > Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, ba
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On Fri, 2 Jun 1995, Otto Koppius wrote:
quoted 6 lines Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was> Soma is -believe it or not- a Scottish label, based in Glasgow (there was > an article on them in DJ Magazine about two years ago, that's when I first > heard of them). Two or three months ago they released an album called > something like 'Soma Quality Recordings 1990-1995'. I'll try to find the > original article (room's a bit of a mess, so it'll be difficult) and put > some highlights on IDM.
Soma also have a label offshoot called Fifth Freedom, run by i-D music journo Calvin Bush. It concentrates on sort of jazzy techno (first release was Move D's _Eine Kliene Nachtmusik_)... || [CiM] || u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk || http://www.sys.uea.ac.uk/~u9323899/
2001-03-07 17:54Static EdenMatador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that would wipe them out. But
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Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that would wipe them out. But as far as I'm concerned, association isn't that important. cheers. Mark.
2001-03-07 17:34Miwa Okumurafyi-Matador is independently distributed. no association with the below. >Matador is distr
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fyi-Matador is independently distributed. no association with the below.
quoted 6 lines Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that>Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that >would wipe them out. But as far as I'm concerned, association isn't >that important. > >cheers. >Mark.
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2001-03-07 23:15Lee Azzarelloon 3/7/01 9:34 AM, Miwa Okumura at miwa@matadorrecords.com wrote: > fyi-Matador is indepen
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on 3/7/01 9:34 AM, Miwa Okumura at miwa@matadorrecords.com wrote:
quoted 6 lines fyi-Matador is independently distributed. no association with the below.> fyi-Matador is independently distributed. no association with the below. > > >> Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that >> would wipe them out. But as far as I'm concerned, association isn't >> that important.
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2001-03-08 08:45Mike ParadinasMatador are in fact owned by EMI, a little known fact. > Matador is distributed by Capitol
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Matador are in fact owned by EMI, a little known fact.
quoted 3 lines Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that would => Matador is distributed by Capitol & EMI. So by, association that would = > wipe them out. But as far as I'm concerned, association isn't that = > important.
quoted 2 lines cheers.> cheers. > Mark.
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2001-07-02 23:24CAPOIIEE@aol.comim trying to find out what the word on the street is for decent labels, as im helping a fr
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im trying to find out what the word on the street is for decent labels, as im helping a friend get a record out, but have found little info on small indy electronic lables.. figured this would be a good place to ask around, as he makes a form of idm (tho not computer based, and with a definite breakbeat undertone).. any good suggestions(prefreably usa based)? thanks
2002-01-04 16:11Albers, Brian> And I do not like quality of sound on Merck > releases, by the way. Fair enough, althoug
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quoted 2 lines And I do not like quality of sound on Merck> And I do not like quality of sound on Merck > releases, by the way.
Fair enough, although I personally think that's a horrible reason to dislike something. And I always thought it was strange that people would like any release as long as it was on a certain label, be it Warp or Skam or Merck or Schematic or whatever. Every label puts out masterpieces. Every label puts out stinkers. It's all art. It's all a matter of taste.
2002-01-04 16:39Adam Piontek>>> And I do not like quality of sound on Merck >>> releases, by the way. > >>Fair enough,
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quoted 13 lines And I do not like quality of sound on Merck>>> And I do not like quality of sound on Merck >>> releases, by the way. > >>Fair enough, although I personally think that's a >>horrible reason to dislike something. > > And I always thought it was strange that people > would like any release as > long as it was on a certain label, be it Warp or > Skam or Merck or Schematic > or whatever. Every label puts out masterpieces. > Every label puts out > stinkers. It's all art. It's all a matter of taste.
Amen. I've been pimping Merck in the past couple months because I like everything they've done so far, not because I think they're infallible. And the same goes for artists, too, of course... :P ===== .Adam http://www.damek.org/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2004-03-10 15:48hime@charter.net> anyway, I guess what i'm saying is that in order for the music industry, or for > musici
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quoted 9 lines anyway, I guess what i'm saying is that in order for the music industry, or for> anyway, I guess what i'm saying is that in order for the music industry, or for > musicians and record companies to be able to turn a profit, they need to have a > better understanding of their customers' buying habits, and how the internet > has changed the way people listen to and purchase music. my current plan is > kind of based on the assumption that i'm not a unique individual and that there > are enough people out there with buying habits like mine to be able to support > this sort of venture, and since we're talking record pressings of 500-700 > copies, it's not like there's a lot of capital at risk here. hopefully we'll > get a chance to put out some memorable records...
Wil, I wish you luck, but unless you have the time to make it a full time job, running a record label is a lot like throwing away large piles of money. Especially tough is finding artists who are actually going to push the agenda, and then finding some way that you benefit them as well. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org