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Muddlin' Gear - Jamie Liddell Anyone into their crazy ass shit has gotta check this beast out, ouch those horns, try to check it on LP as it has an extra track, "The Eep", i swear it's fuckin' mental bleep __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

mr lidell and mr vogel have both walked straight over the edge. i dont understand it, but i like it. i was hoping mr squarepusher would do the same.. but, nope. On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, St ranger wrote:

quoted 19 lines Muddlin' Gear - Jamie Liddell

> Muddlin' Gear - Jamie Liddell > > Anyone into their crazy ass shit has gotta check this > beast out, ouch those horns, try to check it on LP as > it has an extra track, "The Eep", i swear it's fuckin' > mental > > bleep > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Yea... I'll just second that. I couldn't stand Muddlin' Gear. I bought it after hearing a whole lot of hype on the list about it when it came out and returned it shortly after. I found it really unlistenable. Maybe I should give it another chance now... you never know. -Aaron

quoted 25 lines Muddlin' Gear - Jamie Liddell

> > > > Muddlin' Gear - Jamie Liddell > > > > Anyone into their crazy ass shit has gotta check this > > beast out, ouch those horns, try to check it on LP as > > it has an extra track, "The Eep", i swear it's fuckin' > > mental > > > > bleep > > Funny, I thought that this record was well below par, being messy and > unfriendly without being in any way interesting. > > lipswitch is much better > > georgewilliamson > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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IMO - muddlin' gear has a very nurse with wound feel. yes it is loose & hectic, but i suspect that was the intent. it is also funky & freaked out. i cannot think of any other "idm" type album like it, though it might appeal to folks who enjoy phthalocyanine? chris. On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Aaron D Meyers wrote:

quoted 14 lines Yea... I'll just second that. I couldn't stand Muddlin' Gear. I

> Yea... I'll just second that. I couldn't stand Muddlin' Gear. I > bought it after hearing a whole lot of hype on the list about it when > it came out and returned it shortly after. I found it really > unlistenable. Maybe I should give it another chance now... you never > know. > > -Aaron > > > > Funny, I thought that this record was well below par, being messy and > > unfriendly without being in any way interesting. > > > > lipswitch is much better > > > > georgewilliamson

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I liked both Muddlin' Gear and Lipswitch. Muddlin' Gear might appeal to Pthalo fans somewhat, but I liked Muddlin Gear a lot, yet haven't liked any Pthalo I've heard, probably because I'm too pop-oriented for my own good. As good as a lot of recent music is, I have to say the last album that truly blew my mind in a life-changing kind of way was the RDJ Album. Mostly because before then I'd never heard anything like it; I was uninitiated as far as any electronic music goes. Less "mind-blowing" experiences have been had since, where an album struck me as very very good, like Autechre's Chiastic Slide (took me forever to enjoy them), Proem's stuff, Squarepusher, BoC, Bogdan, Jamie Lidell... I could go on and on with the "very good" stuff. But nothing has been so revolutionary to my ears as RDJ Album - and the kicker is that even RDJ Album isn't revolutionary when placed in the Warp/IDM/etc. context... only to me because I hadn't heard anything like it before. It's all context !D -Adam --- zimbo <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu> wrote:

quoted 5 lines IMO - muddlin' gear has a very nurse with

> IMO - muddlin' gear has a very nurse with > wound feel. [...] i cannot think of any > other "idm" type album like it, though it > might appeal to folks who enjoy phthalocyanine? >

---georgewilliamson wrote:

quoted 6 lines Funny, I thought that this record was

> > > Funny, I thought that this record was > > > well below par, being messy and > > > unfriendly without being in any > > > way interesting. > > > > > > lipswitch is much better

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My friend just sent me a CD of 'breakcore', ie breakbeat with hardcore sensibilities. I quite like the stuff on there from Panacea and Venetian Snares, as well as interesting stuff from 'DJ Scud', but the track which really grabs me is by Echo - 'Sinistar'. Anyone know some background on these artists? Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 5 lines My friend just sent me a CD of 'breakcore', ie breakbeat with hardcore

> My friend just sent me a CD of 'breakcore', ie breakbeat with hardcore > sensibilities. I quite like the stuff on there from Panacea and Venetian > Snares, as well as interesting stuff from 'DJ Scud', but the track which > really grabs me is by Echo - 'Sinistar'. Anyone know some background on > these artists?

I know that the record was released on Green Label, a drum & bass label out of San Fran... You could try to find their website for more info. (Though I'm not positive they have one). -- :: atomly :: atomly@atomly.com | atomly@my2way.com http://www.atomly.com/ | 877.741.3571 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Odd they used to have one, can't find it now, but you can buy their records here: http://www.midheaven.com/labels/nonexc/green.label.html only $5.25 each!! a bargain! -i --- atomly <atomly@atomly.com> wrote:

quoted 10 lines [Anig Browl <anig_browl@yahoo.com>]

> [Anig Browl <anig_browl@yahoo.com>] > > My friend just sent me a CD of 'breakcore', ie breakbeat with hardcore > > sensibilities. I quite like the stuff on there from Panacea and Venetian > > Snares, as well as interesting stuff from 'DJ Scud', but the track which > > really grabs me is by Echo - 'Sinistar'. Anyone know some background on > > these artists? > > I know that the record was released on Green Label, a drum & bass label > out of San Fran... You could try to find their website for more info. > (Though I'm not positive they have one).

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 10:39:13 +0100 To: "IDM List" <idm@hyperreal.org> From: "Anig Browl" <anig_browl@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [idm] blow your mind Message-ID: <01b901c10b88$b5f9f680$a4a7869f@pauls> My friend just sent me a CD of 'breakcore', ie breakbeat with hardcore sensibilities. I quite like the stuff on there from Panacea and Venetian Snares, as well as interesting stuff from 'DJ Scud', but the track which really grabs me is by Echo - 'Sinistar'. Anyone know some background on these artists? Anig Browl Well, I've never heard the CD you are referring to, but I am willing to bet most of it wasn't breakcore, but drum n bass. Panacea has been producing for a long time on Position Chrome with his early output being really nasty and mental (and quite good!) but recently (last couple years) it's been total garbage. Look for and Position Chrome releases before #22 or so and you'll be on the right track. Venetian Snares (Aaron Funk from Canada) is probably what you referred to as 'breakcore'. I don't have it yet, but I highly recommend "Songs About my Cats" on planet-mu. A very toned down V Snares release, but its still pretty nice. Audio samples on planet mu. DJ Scud is a key part of Ambush records, who plays and records drum n bass, hardcore, breakcore, etc (basically anything hard and loud). Check out him or anyone for that matter on Ambush. I like their material much more than your average loud and noisy underground label. Echo is definitely drum n bass and affiliated with Green label as Atomly mentioned. As far as I know, he only has 2 singles. Sinistar/Microdot (which I have) was released a few years back and Photogel/Drop Dead (on Phylum Recordings) which is his latest effort. He has also worked with other Bay Area dnb artists on a few singles, but I can't remember the alias' used, so I won't even try to guess. He seems to be pretty low key, even though his material is quite good and very original from most dnb. Hope this helps inform someone! Took me a while to type ;) joe. Free, encrypted, secure Web-based email at www.hushmail.com

Dude, i'ts been almost 5 years since RDJ lp and _still_ Nothing has even come close. never mind the kicker. ? On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Adam Piontek <apiontek@yahoo.com> writes:

quoted 51 lines I liked both Muddlin' Gear and Lipswitch.

> I liked both Muddlin' Gear and Lipswitch. > > Muddlin' Gear might appeal to Pthalo fans somewhat, > but I liked Muddlin Gear a lot, yet haven't liked any > Pthalo I've heard, probably because I'm too > pop-oriented for my own good. > > As good as a lot of recent music is, I have to say the > last album that truly blew my mind in a life-changing > kind of way was the RDJ Album. Mostly because before > then I'd never heard anything like it; I was > uninitiated as far as any electronic music goes. > > Less "mind-blowing" experiences have been had since, > where an album struck me as very very good, like > Autechre's Chiastic Slide (took me forever to enjoy > them), Proem's stuff, Squarepusher, BoC, Bogdan, Jamie > Lidell... I could go on and on with the "very good" > stuff. But nothing has been so revolutionary to my > ears as RDJ Album - and the kicker is that even RDJ > Album isn't revolutionary when placed in the > Warp/IDM/etc. context... only to me because I hadn't > heard anything like it before. It's all context !D > -Adam > > --- zimbo <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu> wrote: > > IMO - muddlin' gear has a very nurse with > > wound feel. [...] i cannot think of any > > other "idm" type album like it, though it > > might appeal to folks who enjoy phthalocyanine? > > > ---georgewilliamson wrote: > > > > Funny, I thought that this record was > > > > well below par, being messy and > > > > unfriendly without being in any > > > > way interesting. > > > > > > > > lipswitch is much better > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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Same here, RDJ is what started it all for me, and it hasn't lost its touch yet if you ask me. AE's Incunabula got me hooked to them, but I can't really listen to that anymore, just as a comparison. np: Go Plastic (YOU SUCK YOU SUCK YOU SUCK - am I hearing that right?) On Fri, 13 Jul 2001, Oj Olsen wrote:

quoted 71 lines Dude, i'ts been almost 5 years since RDJ lp

> Dude, i'ts been almost 5 years since RDJ lp > and _still_ Nothing has even come close. > > never mind the kicker. > > ? > > > On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 07:33:02 -0700 (PDT) Adam Piontek > <apiontek@yahoo.com> writes: > > I liked both Muddlin' Gear and Lipswitch. > > > > Muddlin' Gear might appeal to Pthalo fans somewhat, > > but I liked Muddlin Gear a lot, yet haven't liked any > > Pthalo I've heard, probably because I'm too > > pop-oriented for my own good. > > > > As good as a lot of recent music is, I have to say the > > last album that truly blew my mind in a life-changing > > kind of way was the RDJ Album. Mostly because before > > then I'd never heard anything like it; I was > > uninitiated as far as any electronic music goes. > > > > Less "mind-blowing" experiences have been had since, > > where an album struck me as very very good, like > > Autechre's Chiastic Slide (took me forever to enjoy > > them), Proem's stuff, Squarepusher, BoC, Bogdan, Jamie > > Lidell... I could go on and on with the "very good" > > stuff. But nothing has been so revolutionary to my > > ears as RDJ Album - and the kicker is that even RDJ > > Album isn't revolutionary when placed in the > > Warp/IDM/etc. context... only to me because I hadn't > > heard anything like it before. It's all context !D > > -Adam > > > > --- zimbo <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu> wrote: > > > IMO - muddlin' gear has a very nurse with > > > wound feel. [...] i cannot think of any > > > other "idm" type album like it, though it > > > might appeal to folks who enjoy phthalocyanine? > > > > > ---georgewilliamson wrote: > > > > > Funny, I thought that this record was > > > > > well below par, being messy and > > > > > unfriendly without being in any > > > > > way interesting. > > > > > > > > > > lipswitch is much better > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 2 lines Well, I've never heard the CD you are referring to, but I am willing to

> Well, I've never heard the CD you are referring to, but I am willing to > bet most of it wasn't breakcore, but drum n bass.

That's because it was run off specially for me by my friend. Aaah. Well it is certainly drum'n'bassy, but the breakcore appelation comes from the fact that most of the tracks feature heavy distortion and digital grot, reminiscent of hardcore production techniques. Sort of like DnB meets scary gabber.

quoted 4 lines Venetian Snares (Aaron Funk from Canada) is probably what you referred to

> Venetian Snares (Aaron Funk from Canada) is probably what you referred to > as 'breakcore'. I don't have it yet, but I highly recommend "Songs About > my Cats" on planet-mu. A very toned down V Snares release, but its still > pretty nice.

The tracks on my friends CD are certainly not toned down (or if they are, I'm scared of his noisy stuff!). I don't have the CD on hand right now, it includes 'Intense Demonic Attacks' and some other tracks in a similar style. My friend is going to see VS at the Fuck Parade, I'll try and persuade him to do a review.

quoted 2 lines Echo is definitely drum n bass and affiliated with Green label as Atomly

> Echo is definitely drum n bass and affiliated with Green label as Atomly > mentioned. As far as I know, he only has 2 singles. Sinistar/Microdot

(which

quoted 1 line I have)

> I have)

Yes, this track was considerably cleaner than some of the others. Very tasty track, Sinistar. I hope he releases more stuff. I like this rough, vaguely junglish variant of DnB more than the lounge end of the genre. Thanks for the pointers. Anig Browl _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org