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2001-05-20 11:26Brian MacDonald [idm] Autechre in L.A.
2001-05-20 19:21Kenneth Reinhard Re: [idm] Autechre in L.A.
2001-05-20 23:17brian albers Re: [idm] Autechre in L.A.
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2001-05-20 11:26Brian MacDonaldI just got back from seeing Autechre and the Autechrettes (Rob Hall, Russell Haswell, Curt
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[idm] Autechre in L.A.
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I just got back from seeing Autechre and the Autechrettes (Rob Hall, Russell Haswell, Curtis Roads, etc.) in L.A. as well. (Hi Peter, Yulia, and other homies). Overall, I'm super glad I made the effort to see this show a second time. There actually were enough differences between the Seattle and L.A. shows to make it worthwhile to catch both. The El Rey, surprisingly enough, got the sound mix right this time. A more crisp, sharp, trebley mix than the one offered at Seattle's Showbox. Also, the mega-posh light setup at the El Rey was used to full effect (except for the Autechre show, where I guess Rob and Sean asked to not have any blinking lights) As a result, the Dj sets and the performances had different feels. Things just seemed for crisp, upbeat, and "happy" at the L.A. show, whereas the mood seemed a bit darker at the Seattle show. Curtis Roads was the local opener for this show. Unfortunately, I didn't catch the entire set, but his performance (well, actually him and a friend) was definitely on the academic side... Stockhausen, Edgar Varese, Schoenberg (sp?), Conlon Nancarrow, and perhaps Bruce Gilbert would make fair points of reference. I was told he was a professor at UC Santa Barbara, and once at MIT(?)... Anyway, he got quite a good reaction at the show. Rob Hall's set was similar to the one in Seattle. Synthy electro dance music.. but he played New Order's "The Beach" tonight, whereas he didn't in Seattle. The crowd really dug Russell's set (well, most of the crowd), especially during the Torture Garden/Boredoms/grindcore songs. Russell got an insane light show. Autechre did the same main 4 songs... the first two being more lulling and pulsing, and the latter two being utter micro-edit mindfucks. But they sounded different enough from the Seattle live versions such that I could convince myself they were definitely *not* hiding a DAT player playing the show underneath their gear. :) Again, maybe it's because I was up front at the more bassy Showbox, and I was in the back at the more trebley El Rey, but there was more highend and upbeatness during the songs for the L.A. show than Seattle -- despite the lack of light shows, and sometimes lack of sight of Sean or Rob. (One of them was on his knees out of view from the audience for most of the second half, and BOTH were not visible for the transition between the 3rd and 4th songs) The one major similarity was the SCORES of people leaving the floor during Autechre's set. (which supplemented some additional entertainment for me :) I'd say for either show, around 50% of the floor cleared out from start to finish of Ae's set. I have to ask, when Throbbing Gristle played L.A. back in 1981, did that many people leave their set in such a short amount of time? Has this been happening at all of the previous Autechre shows? I never cared too much for Autechre until now. "Confield", "Peel Sessions 2", and the current tour have made me a fan. What they're doing musically is more akin to a new instrumental take on early Cabaret Voltaire, early Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft, Throbbing Gristle, Coil, Nurse With Wound, and early Severed Heads, than any of what are popularly considered Autechre's contemporaries -- though if so, the closest I could think of being Phthalocyanine. Again, I HIGHLY recommend catching this show when it comes to your town -- especially if you dig the recent Autechre material. It's been to great to meet some new people at both shows...(Sally and gang in Seattle, Peter and Yulia in L.A.) ======================================================================= Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> ======================================================================= --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-20 19:21Kenneth ReinhardHi Brian, I had to leave last night's show at around midnight (the old pumpkin thing...);
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Hi Brian, I had to leave last night's show at around midnight (the old pumpkin thing...); what happened after that point? I assume Autechre came back on? Did you think they were just being totally ironic when they said at the beginning that this would be a "greatest hits" show? I mean, I thought what they did was fantastic, but nothing seemed to be even remotely a rendition of something they've recorded. Another question: did they ever give the www address for where they've posted that Pulsar software they mentioned? I thought the piece they did using it was especially good. Thanks, Ken Brian MacDonald wrote:
quoted 74 lines I just got back from seeing Autechre and the Autechrettes (Rob Hall,> > I just got back from seeing Autechre and the Autechrettes (Rob Hall, > Russell Haswell, Curtis Roads, etc.) in L.A. as well. (Hi Peter, Yulia, > and other homies). > > Overall, I'm super glad I made the effort to see this show a second time. > There actually were enough differences between the Seattle and L.A. shows > to make it worthwhile to catch both. > > The El Rey, surprisingly enough, got the sound mix right this time. A > more crisp, sharp, trebley mix than the one offered at Seattle's Showbox. > Also, the mega-posh light setup at the El Rey was used to full effect > (except for the Autechre show, where I guess Rob and Sean asked to not > have any blinking lights) As a result, the Dj sets and the performances > had different feels. Things just seemed for crisp, upbeat, and "happy" at > the L.A. show, whereas the mood seemed a bit darker at the Seattle show. > > Curtis Roads was the local opener for this show. Unfortunately, I didn't > catch the entire set, but his performance (well, actually him and a > friend) was definitely on the academic side... Stockhausen, Edgar Varese, > Schoenberg (sp?), Conlon Nancarrow, and perhaps Bruce Gilbert would make > fair points of reference. I was told he was a professor at UC Santa > Barbara, and once at MIT(?)... Anyway, he got quite a good reaction at > the show. > > Rob Hall's set was similar to the one in Seattle. Synthy electro dance > music.. but he played New Order's "The Beach" tonight, whereas he didn't > in Seattle. > > The crowd really dug Russell's set (well, most of the crowd), especially > during the Torture Garden/Boredoms/grindcore songs. Russell got an insane > light show. > > Autechre did the same main 4 songs... the first two being more lulling and > pulsing, and the latter two being utter micro-edit mindfucks. But they > sounded different enough from the Seattle live versions such that I could > convince myself they were definitely *not* hiding a DAT player playing the > show underneath their gear. :) Again, maybe it's because I was up front > at the more bassy Showbox, and I was in the back at the more trebley El > Rey, but there was more highend and upbeatness during the songs for the > L.A. show than Seattle -- despite the lack of light shows, and sometimes > lack of sight of Sean or Rob. (One of them was on his knees out of view > from the audience for most of the second half, and BOTH were not visible > for the transition between the 3rd and 4th songs) > > The one major similarity was the SCORES of people leaving the floor during > Autechre's set. (which supplemented some additional entertainment for me > :) I'd say for either show, around 50% of the floor cleared > out from start to finish of Ae's set. I have to ask, when Throbbing > Gristle played L.A. back in 1981, did that many people leave their set in > such a short amount of time? Has this been happening at all of the > previous Autechre shows? > > I never cared too much for Autechre until now. "Confield", "Peel Sessions > 2", and the current tour have made me a fan. What they're doing musically > is more akin to a new instrumental take on early Cabaret Voltaire, early > Deutsch Amerikanische Freundschaft, Throbbing Gristle, Coil, Nurse With > Wound, and early Severed Heads, than any of what are popularly considered > Autechre's contemporaries -- though if so, the closest I could think of > being Phthalocyanine. > > Again, I HIGHLY recommend catching this show when it comes to your town -- > especially if you dig the recent Autechre material. > > It's been to great to meet some new people at both shows...(Sally and gang > in Seattle, Peter and Yulia in L.A.) > > ======================================================================= > Brian MacDonald <brianm@kuci.org> > ======================================================================= > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-05-20 23:17brian albersOk, Ok. Let's get to the important stuff. It wouldn't be an LA show without some celebrity
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Ok, Ok. Let's get to the important stuff. It wouldn't be an LA show without some celebrity sightings. Nivek Ogre (who was having WAY too much fun during Haswell's set and was dancing more than the entire room combined during Ae) cEvin Key both guys in Gridlock Dntel Mike Fix's shoulderbag (with Mike Fix attached) me? And oh ya, Haswell killed. Curtis Rhodes was interesting for five minutes or so and then was pretty boring. Autechre killed. Heavy on the kick, heavy on the bass lines, squealy whiny melodies. Every song started out by kicking you in the teeth and didn't stop for 15 or 20 minutes. Basically everything that Confield isn't. Stuck around for a couple minutes of Rob Hall's set, but decided to skip on out. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-21 06:46Peter Schrockdid anyone notice amir derakh from orgy, or was I seeing a look a like? on 5/20/01 4:17 PM
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did anyone notice amir derakh from orgy, or was I seeing a look a like? on 5/20/01 4:17 PM, brian albers at brianalbers@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 11 lines Ok, Ok. Let's get to the important stuff.> > Ok, Ok. Let's get to the important stuff. > It wouldn't be an LA show without some celebrity sightings. > > Nivek Ogre (who was having WAY too much fun during Haswell's set and was > dancing more than the entire room combined during Ae) > cEvin Key > both guys in Gridlock > Dntel > Mike Fix's shoulderbag (with Mike Fix attached) > me?
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