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quoted 15 lines Ever hear of Wendy Carlos?

> >Ever hear of Wendy Carlos? > > >>>>There are girls that both listen to and make idm, but Wendy Carlos > is > >>>>probably not the best example for a wide variety of reasons, maily > that the > >>>>bulk of her music precursed idm by well over 2 decades. Not that > i'm > >>>>slagging her, i truly enjoy her music. > > > ...uh, plus the fact that she was born a man. There! I said it. > > Mark >

The whole Wendy/Walter sex-change thing has not been real clear to me. I have a copy of Sonic Seasonings on vinyl that says Walter Carlos on the cover. I have read/heard many stories as to why Wendy used to be called Walter. I have a hard time believing any of them. Even though she does kind of look like John Malkovich with a bad toupee! She/He was/is a huge influence on many artists today.(BoC being one of the obvious ones) I believe that Autechre noted her as being an influence in an interview a few years back. Oh well, either way(with or without a shlong) Wenter has produced some great work.(Sonic Seasonings, STs:Tron and The Shining as well as A Clockwork Orange) Rick --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. s. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2000 22:40:46 -0600 To: idm@hyperreal.org From: "David Moore" <number1138@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [idm] Why don't girls like IDM? Message-ID: <F408QVjp3b6uIU1Gj030000e09c@hotmail.com>

quoted 1 line I don't get it. Can someone explain that? They all seem to like

> > I don't get it. Can someone explain that? They all seem to like

N'Sync

quoted 4 lines and

>and > > Ricky Martin and things like that. As far as I can tell, no females >listen > > to or write IDM (unless you count Mira Calix, but since Ae writes

all of

quoted 2 lines her

>her > > stuff, it doesn't really count). I mean, I guess it's just

something

quoted 3 lines genetic or whatever that they can't appreciate IDM.

> > genetic or whatever that they can't appreciate IDM. > >Ever hear of Wendy Carlos?

quoted 1 line There are girls that both listen to and make idm, but Wendy Carlos

>>>>There are girls that both listen to and make idm, but Wendy Carlos

is

quoted 1 line probably not the best example for a wide variety of reasons, maily

>>>>probably not the best example for a wide variety of reasons, maily

that the

quoted 1 line bulk of her music precursed idm by well over 2 decades. Not that

>>>>bulk of her music precursed idm by well over 2 decades. Not that

i'm

quoted 1 line slagging her, i truly enjoy her music.

>>>>slagging her, i truly enjoy her music.

...uh, plus the fact that she was born a man. There! I said it. Mark _ _ _ Mouse on Mars discussion list: http://www.egroups.com/group/vulvaland --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Mon, 4 Dec 2000, Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 7 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,

> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?

cus they get yelled at by jason for liking planet mu comps! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 11:28 PM 12/4/2000 -0600, you wrote:

quoted 8 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,

> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > >A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?

oh, but we do! :D --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

here here, i'm available for musical discussions in london in real life anytime with either sex. but you have to look as geek as me otherwise i wont talk to you. plus if yr trainers dont match yr music yr history. At 11:28 pm -0600 4/12/00, Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 8 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,

> >we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, > >playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to > >actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. > > > >move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. > > >A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?

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Well, I do understand what Joe's talking about. Though I'm absolutely not supportive of his sexist approach I got to admit that I've never met a girl who likes idm as well... I know that this is only my problem yet it is sad but true... Alien lifeform. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 12/4/00 10:28 PM, Wendy K at wendy@ninjatune.net wrote:

quoted 37 lines here here, i'm available for musical discussions in

> here here, i'm available for musical discussions in > london in real life anytime with either sex. but you > have to look as geek as me otherwise i wont talk to you. > > plus if yr trainers dont match yr music yr history. > > > > At 11:28 pm -0600 4/12/00, Andrew Hime wrote: >>> we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, >>> playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to >>> actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. >>> >>> move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo. >> >> >> A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM? > > _______________________________________________________________________ > SOLID STEEL - THE BROADEST BEATS - COLDCUT & FRIENDS BROADCASTING LIVE > > Three ways to listen: > > LIVE ON THE RADIO - BBC London Live > 94.9FM, Monday, Midnight to 2AM BST > > LIVE ON THE WEB - BBC London Live Website > http://www.bbc.co.uk/londonlive > > Archive of ALL Mixes - Ninja Tune Website > http://www.ninjatune.net/solidsteel > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

I know plenty of girls that like IDM. In fact, if anyone went to the Kid606 show at the Knitting Factory in LA, you would have seen many females, dressed up/dressed down, *not* necessarily hanging on their boyfriends arm, digging the music. I don't think many girls really *care* about dorky boys drooling over synths, but I know plenty of *boys* that don't care about dorky boys drooling over synths. If the music is interesting in any way beyond how it was created, there will be people that are attracted to it. The only reason there's this geeky boys club elitism is from a bunch of people that get so involved in their little programming world they temporarily lose track of their social skills (I say this out of experience). Then there are the affected intellectual wannabes...who are very wack. -l -l[e^2] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 5 lines we're all too busy watching the new version of dune,

>>we're all too busy watching the new version of dune, >>playing macmame, and buying records from skimo to >>actually *talk* about this stuff with smelly boys. >> >>move over, fucker, that's _my_ stereo.

quoted 1 line A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?

>A more important question is why don't cute boys like IDM?

What's going on here? Is IDM really THAT GEEKY? There must surely be some cute boys and girls out there that are into this stuff. I've heard people on this list talk about the 'geek' (I hate that word so much) factor of IDM before now and I must say that I wasn't aware of this until I joined this list. But then, I don't get out much. No-one else I know in the whole universe likes the same music as me so I have to sit around listening to people take the piss out of it the whole time because it's not conventional or over-produced and glossy sounding or it sounds a bit retro or whatever. *sigh* Geeky? Is it really that geeky? )Jamesq. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org