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OKAY, THANKS TO ALL FOR THE INFORMATIVE INSIGHT INTO HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR RELEASE. THIS IS THE CONCLUSION, AFTER THINKING MORE ABOUT IT: ASTRALWERKS, PLEASE MARKET YOUR MUSIC AS DANCE MUSIC FIRST, ELECTRONIC SECOND. DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEEN HERE? I AM JUST POSTINGANDPOSTINGANDWRITINGANDWRITINGANDI CANT STOP. I HAVE SOME EARS AND/OR EYES RIGHT NOW AND I WILL FUCKIN USE THEM. IF ASTRALWERKS STARTS THIS, THAN MAYBE, 1500 RECS MIGHT AS WELL, SO I CAN FEEL PROUD ABOUT SAYING LOUDLY THAT I LISTEN TO ELECTRONIC MUSIC. THE STATUS QUO IS THAT 4/4 DANCE NUMBERS ARE WHAT POPULAR AMERICA ASSOCIATE WITH "COMPUTER MUSIC"(you know that some idiot has called it that to you or around you) AND, SINCE DRUG EYED DANCE-ATHON RAVERS THINK IDM HEADS ARE "STUCK UP" FOR BEING HONEST, LETS JUST MAKE *TWO* SETS TO FILE THINGS UNDER: DANCE.......................ELECTRONIC.......... MAKES SINCE, EH? LIKE...... RAP.........................HIPHOP............. EASY LISTENING...............JAZZ................ ROCK.........................POST-ROCK............ GET IT? YOU SEE, IF NEW AGE WAS STILL ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRONIC MUSIC, THE DANCE CATS WOULD BE UP IN ARMS, BUT NOW IS A TIME TO SEPERATE AND SEGREGATE. SORRY, HATE TO SOUND NARROW MINDED, BUT FUCK IT, I AM. I DONT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH GLOW STICKS AND ASTRALWERKS. ITS NOT ME. AND IT SUCKS THAT THE LAST STRONG HOLD 'WE' HAD OVER THERE IS GONE, NO MORE POPULAR RELEASED GOOD PHOTEK (PHOTEK PRODUCTIONS WILL CARREY ON THE FIGHT). THE DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICAN CULTURE IS TRULY HAPPENING WHEN ALL WE ARE ASKED TO DO IS 'SWALLOW THIS, PUT ON THESE CLOWN CLOTHES, SHUT UP, AND DANCE' BENINE. RANRANTRANT,NOTCHECKEDORANYMESSLIKETHAT,ILOVETOSTARTDEBATEANDTOPISSPEOPLEOFF,BECAUSEATLEASTYOUARENOWTHINKINGABOUTWHATYOUAREMADABOUT.CHOW HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND "MY ESCELATOR STOPS FOR NO RAVE" _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

These would make great Consolidated or Atari Teenage Riot lyrics... except the latter would require some F-words and some more exclamation points... On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, Benjamin McDonald wrote:

quoted 29 lines OKAY, THANKS TO ALL FOR THE INFORMATIVE INSIGHT INTO HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS

> OKAY, THANKS TO ALL FOR THE INFORMATIVE INSIGHT INTO HOW I FEEL ABOUT THIS > PARTICULAR RELEASE. THIS IS THE CONCLUSION, AFTER THINKING MORE ABOUT IT: > ASTRALWERKS, PLEASE MARKET YOUR MUSIC AS DANCE MUSIC FIRST, ELECTRONIC > SECOND. DO YOU SEE WHAT I MEEN HERE? I AM JUST > POSTINGANDPOSTINGANDWRITINGANDWRITINGANDI CANT STOP. I HAVE SOME EARS AND/OR > EYES RIGHT NOW AND I WILL FUCKIN USE THEM. IF ASTRALWERKS STARTS THIS, THAN > MAYBE, 1500 RECS MIGHT AS WELL, SO I CAN FEEL PROUD ABOUT SAYING LOUDLY THAT > I LISTEN TO ELECTRONIC MUSIC. THE STATUS QUO IS THAT 4/4 DANCE NUMBERS ARE > WHAT POPULAR AMERICA ASSOCIATE WITH "COMPUTER MUSIC"(you know that some > idiot has called it that to you or around you) > AND, SINCE DRUG EYED DANCE-ATHON RAVERS THINK IDM HEADS ARE "STUCK UP" FOR > BEING HONEST, LETS JUST MAKE *TWO* SETS TO FILE THINGS UNDER: > DANCE.......................ELECTRONIC.......... > MAKES SINCE, EH? LIKE...... > RAP.........................HIPHOP............. > EASY LISTENING...............JAZZ................ > ROCK.........................POST-ROCK............ > GET IT? YOU SEE, IF NEW AGE WAS STILL ASSOCIATED WITH ELECTRONIC MUSIC, THE > DANCE CATS WOULD BE UP IN ARMS, BUT NOW IS A TIME TO SEPERATE AND SEGREGATE. > SORRY, HATE TO SOUND NARROW MINDED, BUT FUCK IT, I AM. I DONT WANT TO BE > ASSOCIATED WITH GLOW STICKS AND ASTRALWERKS. ITS NOT ME. AND IT SUCKS THAT > THE LAST STRONG HOLD 'WE' HAD OVER THERE IS GONE, NO MORE POPULAR RELEASED > GOOD PHOTEK (PHOTEK PRODUCTIONS WILL CARREY ON THE FIGHT). THE DUMBING DOWN > OF AMERICAN CULTURE IS TRULY HAPPENING WHEN ALL WE ARE ASKED TO DO IS > 'SWALLOW THIS, PUT ON THESE CLOWN CLOTHES, SHUT UP, AND DANCE' > BENINE. > RANRANTRANT,NOTCHECKEDORANYMESSLIKETHAT,ILOVETOSTARTDEBATEANDTOPISSPEOPLEOFF,BECAUSEATLEASTYOUARENOWTHINKINGABOUTWHATYOUAREMADABOUT.CHOW > HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND > "MY ESCELATOR STOPS FOR NO RAVE"

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ok, please forgive me for taking flame bait, but i'm feeling combative. as our friend benjamin shouted:

quoted 6 lines BEING HONEST, LETS JUST MAKE *TWO* SETS TO FILE THINGS UNDER:

>BEING HONEST, LETS JUST MAKE *TWO* SETS TO FILE THINGS UNDER: >DANCE.......................ELECTRONIC.......... >NOW IS A TIME TO SEPERATE AND SEGREGATE >AND IT SUCKS THAT >THE LAST STRONG HOLD 'WE' HAD OVER THERE IS GONE, NO MORE POPULAR RELEASED >GOOD PHOTEK [etc. etc.]

forgive me if i'm missing something obvious here, but "good" photek is/was jungle/drum'n'bass, no? and is jungle/drum'n'bass not a form of "dance music"? in which case.... what the fuck is your point? phil

it'a all techno for me, anyway... if it has a techno feeling to me, weather it is photek or snd or thee j johanz or ost or even seefeel or whatever it is all techno... and the last thing what music of the 21st century needs is separation and segregation... i have a radio show called PRIKLJUCAK every Saturday at 00:00 CET and yesterday it was #18, so I thought I should send a playlist... PRIKLJUCAK #18 (21.10.2000.) 01 "silver apples of the moon, part 1" morton subotnick (ellipsis arts) 02 "can" phoencia (warp) 03 "goodnight toby" yee-king (rephlex) 04 "temple of poseidon" x-103 (tresor/axis) 05 "in inphodelik" jamie lidell (warp) 06 "market" luomo (forcetracks) 07 "knarre" o.s.t. (emanate) 08 "outro-vert (lwt mix, with luca)" leila (rephlex) 09 "at les" carl craig (planet e) 10 "segmentation fault" yee-king (rephlex) 11 "untitled (concision track 05)" anthony manning (irdial-discs) 12 "unit" freeform (worm interface) 13 "attack random" leo anibaldi (acv) and yes! it's all techno! every Saturday at 00:00 CET RADIO RIJEKA 95.1 / 100.5 / 102.7 /104.7 MHz webcast : http://www.hrt.hr/streams/rijeka.ram bye rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org