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2000-09-28 10:07[idm] U2, electro-pop, and Madawnnah
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2000-09-28 10:07clerc2@pe.netYeah, U2's been doing lots of electronic stuff at least since Zooropa. And I respect them
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Yeah, U2's been doing lots of electronic stuff at least since Zooropa. And I respect them for it, they could've easily just spent the last decade making Joshua Tree Volumes 1-7 and been rolling in the dough, but instead they've been doing much more interesting things. Bono's been sporting a very hyperslick night-clubby image for quite a while, also - the whole "Fly" thing. Just to be fair, I'm not positive that they beat Madonna to the punch, though - the synths on her 80's stuff don't really count since everyone else was doing it then also, but she's been a pretty big proponent of remixes and 12" club singles pretty much forever. I'm sure you've heard the stereotypes about what they play in gay clubs when they're not playing Donna Summers - Madonna has tons of house remixes. Not that giving Armand Van Helden tons of cash is necessarily a good thing for the history of electronic music, but she's undoubtedly done so. And going back further, the whole vogueing thing was also taken from early 90's New York black gay house culture, so she's been following electronic music for years. At least one of the guys in that video was in a documentary style video, I think it was "Tongues Untied" by Marlon Riggs, or maybe it was "Paris Is Burning" by someone else.... I forget, it was a class on the other side of summer. Madonna just seems to prefer to have other people make her music decent through remixing them, she puts the bland saltines cracker versions on the albums so they're accessible to everyone. Man - defending Madonna's claim to importance in electronic music? I must be aching to be banished from this lunch table.... 8^) It would have been so much fun if Aphex and the Rephlex crew had acquiesced and remixed her stuff when she was begging them to, hanging around Rephresh night and such. DMX Krew could have done it and made the stuff so much better, not to mention what a spoonful of Bogdan could do. Ryan np - Artificial Intelligence II (sadly, just the single-cd version... anyone wanna sell their double disc one?) --- Andrei wrote: Haven't you heard what U2's been doing for the last decade or so ? In all honesty I think they adopted electronic influences before Radiohead even had any records out and they certainly beat Madonna to the punch. Actually I find it interesting that so many people aren't afraid to admit they like Radiohead, but U2, who Radiohead are admittedly very influenced by, are like the most uncool band to like. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-28 17:41Yonnie Lui> Man - defending Madonna's claim to importance in electronic music? >I must be aching to
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quoted 8 lines Man - defending Madonna's claim to importance in electronic music?> Man - defending Madonna's claim to importance in electronic music? >I must be aching to be banished from this lunch table.... 8^) It >would have been so much fun if Aphex and the Rephlex crew had >acquiesced and remixed her stuff when she was begging them to, >hanging around Rephresh night and such. DMX Krew could have done it >and made the stuff so much better, not to mention what a spoonful of >Bogdan could do. > Ryan
just a sugg.... how about Kruder & Dorfmeister!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-09-28 19:42andrei@world.std.comclerc2@pe.net wrote: > Just to be fair, I'm not positive that they beat Madonna to the > p
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clerc2@pe.net wrote:
quoted 4 lines Just to be fair, I'm not positive that they beat Madonna to the> Just to be fair, I'm not positive that they beat Madonna to the > punch, though - the synths on her 80's stuff don't really count since > everyone else was doing it then also, but she's been a pretty big > proponent of remixes and 12" club singles pretty much forever.
Yeah, I think Madonna's always had a connection to sort of generic house and club culture, but I don't think she adopted "electronica" influences until "Ray Of Light". I'd say there's been an overt electronic influence on U2's stuff since '91's "Achtung Baby". And btw, Francois Kevorkian did a remix for U2 in '83. This is just nit-picking though. Does anyone else out there think the production on that (Bjork penned) Madonna song "Bedtime Stories" sounds A LOT like Basic Channel ?
quoted 5 lines It would have been so much fun if Aphex and the Rephlex crew had> It would have been so much fun if Aphex and the Rephlex crew had > acquiesced and remixed her stuff when she was begging them to, > hanging around Rephresh night and such. DMX Krew could have done it > and made the stuff so much better, not to mention what a spoonful of > Bogdan could do.
This is a joke, right ? Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org