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Re: Ambient 4: Isolationism

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1995-06-20 00:18Cody Ochs Re: Ambient 4: Isolationism
1995-06-21 13:22Erkki Rautio Ambient 4: Isolationism
1995-06-21 15:16Brian Beuchaw Re: Ambient 4: Isolationism
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1995-06-20 00:18Cody Ochs>Aqua Regis <dogstar@iac.ne> wrote: > >>well, i just saw a copy of this in a store a coupl
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quoted 7 lines Aqua Regis <dogstar@iac.ne> wrote:>Aqua Regis <dogstar@iac.ne> wrote: > >>well, i just saw a copy of this in a store a couple of days ago. so i >>guess that means that it is finally here. it had a "domestic" price. > >I have been told by Caroline Records that the US release of this album is >DEFINITELY on hold. Import CDs at domestic prices ? What was the store ?
I, also have been told that the US release has been pushed back to August. As for the domestic price you saw...Sometimes I will drop prices on imports at my store when a domestic release is imminent (or I think it is). Keeps customers from getting irate and me from getting stuck with non-returnable goods. Cody Junior's Farm http://www.tyrell.net/~jrsfarm/
1995-06-21 13:22Erkki RautioBrian Beuchaw <beuchaw@ocdis01.tinker.af.mil> wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 95: > Actually, the stu
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Brian Beuchaw <beuchaw@ocdis01.tinker.af.mil> wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 95:
quoted 5 lines Actually, the stuff on _Ambient 4: Isolationism_ weren't released in> Actually, the stuff on _Ambient 4: Isolationism_ weren't released in > the 70s, if I remember right (hold on, gotta check the CD out....). > Yep, 19 of the songs (if you can call some of them that :-)) are > copyrighted 1994, one is copyrighted 1993 and 3 have no copyright date > at all (but I don't think that they're earlier than 1990).
How about the AMM track (Disc 2, track 2)? They were an experimental/ improvisational jazz outfit, that made recordings as early as 1966... Though the copyright is from 1994, that's *unlikely* the year the piece originates from. Sounds very much like Barrett-era Floyd's early experimentations to me, c. 1966-67, but I know I must be biased ;) All in all: good scary headfuck stuff like the whole compilation, which at last didn't sound like Virgin had put it together from Eno's, Laraaji's and Budd's Sunday morning hangover surplus tapes :) Recommended reading - Thomas B. Holmes: Electronic and Experimental Music. Scribners, New York. 1985. ISBN 0-684-18395-1. Peter Manning: Electronic & Computer Music. Oxford University Press, Oxford. 1985. ISBN 0-19-311932-4.
quoted 2 lines cya> cya > brian
ERkki Tampere, pHinland trerra@uta.fi
1995-06-21 15:16Brian BeuchawIn your message of 21 Jun 1995 at 0537 CDT, ERkki sez: > > Brian Beuchaw <beuchaw@ocdis01.
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In your message of 21 Jun 1995 at 0537 CDT, ERkki sez:
quoted 14 lines Brian Beuchaw <beuchaw@ocdis01.tinker.af.mil> wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 95:> > Brian Beuchaw <beuchaw@ocdis01.tinker.af.mil> wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 95: > > > Actually, the stuff on _Ambient 4: Isolationism_ weren't released in > > the 70s, if I remember right (hold on, gotta check the CD out....). > > Yep, 19 of the songs (if you can call some of them that :-)) are > > copyrighted 1994, one is copyrighted 1993 and 3 have no copyright date= > > at all (but I don't think that they're earlier than 1990). > > How about the AMM track (Disc 2, track 2)? They were an experimental/ > improvisational jazz outfit, that made recordings as early as 1966... > Though the copyright is from 1994, that's *unlikely* the year the > piece originates from. Sounds very much like Barrett-era Floyd's early > experimentations to me, c. 1966-67, but I know I must be biased ;)
Actually (sorry, idmer's, I know this isn't idm :-)), they've been doing stuff every coupla years from 1966-present (or at least 1993). Their discog is at http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mamm.html And it lists this: 1993, Vendouvre, Virgin Records ABMT4. One track on Ambient isolationism, a double CD compilation.
quoted 5 lines All in all: good scary headfuck stuff like the whole compilation, which => All in all: good scary headfuck stuff like the whole compilation, which = > at > last didn't sound like Virgin had put it together from Eno's, Laraaji's = > and > Budd's Sunday morning hangover surplus tapes :)
AMEN to that one, good sir!!!!!
quoted 7 lines Recommended reading -> Recommended reading - > > Thomas B. Holmes: Electronic and Experimental Music. > Scribners, New York. 1985. ISBN 0-684-18395-1. > > Peter Manning: Electronic & Computer Music. > Oxford University Press, Oxford. 1985. ISBN 0-19-311932-4.
It'd be interesting if a *new* book on Electronic/Experimental music was written (with all the stuff that's come out in the past 10 years, I think it'd make for some good reading (of course, sometimes I just don't wanna know how the stuff is done, or what they were thinking...just like I don't like videos telling me what images I should see when I hear a song)).
quoted 3 lines ERkki> ERkki > Tampere, pHinland > trerra@uta.fi
cya brian "Better a thousandfold abuse of free speech than denial of free speech. The abuse dies in a day, but the denial stays the life of the people, and entombs the hope of the race." ---Charles Bradlaugh, 19th-century British political activist
1995-06-22 12:59Erkki Rautio> > How about the AMM track (Disc 2, track 2)? They were an experimental/ > Actually (sorr
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Thu, 22 Jun 1995 12:59:54 +0300 (EET DST)
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quoted 8 lines How about the AMM track (Disc 2, track 2)? They were an experimental/> > How about the AMM track (Disc 2, track 2)? They were an experimental/ > Actually (sorry, idmer's, I know this isn't idm :-)), they've been > doing stuff every coupla years from 1966-present (or at least 1993). > Their discog is at http://www.shef.ac.uk/misc/rec/ps/efi/mamm.html > And it lists this: > > 1993, Vendouvre, Virgin Records ABMT4. One track on Ambient > isolationism, a double CD compilation.
Thanks for the correction, the info on the record sleeve was very obscure at times!
quoted 2 lines It'd be interesting if a *new* book on Electronic/Experimental music> It'd be interesting if a *new* book on Electronic/Experimental music > was written (with all the stuff that's come out in the past 10 years,
Well, I'm working on it! Or not actually a book (not yet?), but some kind of history of all experimental & electronic music, ranging from the early 20th century to the latest IDM/techno/ambient/whatever. Just could use more reference material; it would be interesting to see how these different styles of electronic music were evolving, mutating, splicing, fusing together and so on... The first draft is just under construction, so stay tuned...
quoted 2 lines cya> cya > brian
ERkki